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welcome back

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also

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greetings and salutations friends and

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fellow truth seekers

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and welcome back

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to the midnight hour show

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my name is stephen campion also known as

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the mystery man

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investigating for you

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some of the greatest mysteries on planet

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earth

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because who better than me a magician

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a man trained in the art of deception

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and misdirection

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who better than me

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to peel back the layers of deception

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what people in the world that are making

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paranormal claims

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are factual or have some evidence to

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support their claims

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and which of those people making

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fantastic paranormal claims are nothing

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than frauds fakes and conmen

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who better than me

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my friends

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show for you planned

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tonight my friends we will be discussing

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a brand new topic

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i first heard about a paranormal ranch

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where crazy paranormal happenings were

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common

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when i heard about skinwalker ranch but

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did you know there's another ranch that

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claims to be

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but unlike skinwalker ranch this ranch

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the seti ranch is open to the public for

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events and you can go see the flying

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saucers yourself

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a new cosmic con man well he's not new

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but he's kind of new to me

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has sort of entered onto my radar

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and i gotta tell you folks

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i believe he's gonna be real sorry that

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he

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has come onto my

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radar because you see my friends this

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cosmic con man like all of them

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bears a striking resemblance to some of

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those that we've already covered

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it cannot withstand debate or criticism

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of any of his claims

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and in fact goes out of his way to

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remove people that are critical of him

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and his claims from his events

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that's right

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if your claims are so weak they can't

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withstand debate

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or criticism or scrutiny

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maybe just maybe

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your claims just are not credible

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and what what my friends

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what do i do

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when faced with another cosmic con man

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a man

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who promises people a genuine

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extraterrestrial

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and delivers

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nothing more than some flashing lights

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off in the distance that he says or

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spaceships

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a man who makes films

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of bugs flying around and claims that

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they are some kind of extraterrestrial

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and claims that they are starships

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sacred ranch

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this man's name is james gillian

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and i'm going to read you some excerpts

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from his own biography

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on his website which is e seti c e t i

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and e city stands for enlightened

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contact with extraterrestrial

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in the about section for him it says

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james gilead is a best-selling author

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internationally known lecturer

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minister counselor multiple near-death

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experiencer and contactee

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james is recognized worldwide as the

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founder of the gillian estate previously

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referred to and commonly known as the

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where he documents and shares amazing

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multi-dimensional contact phenomenon

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which can be viewed

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at eastcity.org

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his weekly as you wish radio program on

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bbsradio.com draws an audience from

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around the world who are interested in

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he is the host of the documentaries

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contact has begun and contact has begun

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too he has been featured in

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documentaries and television shows

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such as his story the history channel

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ufos then and now ufo hot spots abc fox

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news bbc danny dyer special paranormal

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state and the uncontrolled narrative

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he's appeared on

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numerous radio shows including coast to

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he is a facilitator of many eastern

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disciplines a visionary dedicated to the

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awakening and healing of humanity and

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the earth and he teaches higher

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and the end of his bio is perhaps the

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an unprecedented event is unfolding at

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the ghillie land ranch near mount adams

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in trout lake washington that has the

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potential to change the course and

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destiny of humanity in the earth

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the people of earth are being offered a

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chance to join the rest of the universe

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in peace and participate in a spiritual

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and benevolent extraterrestrial contact

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spiritually and technologically advanced

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that he makes in his own personal

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biography

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uh even just from the welcome page it

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says e seti enlightened contact with

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extraterrestrial intelligence where

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contact is happening now

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the aim of ease seti is to help with

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public awareness of the et reality and

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to insist people with connecting

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to positive other worldly beings

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also he said he shares wisdom and

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teachings in all areas and is a place

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where addressing issues such as poverty

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the environment new technologies food

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health happiness and well-being along

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with self-mastery is being done i gotta

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say folks

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these are pretty fantastic claims

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essentially this man james gillian

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he claims that he owns you know this

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spot of land in washington state off in

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the mountains

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where there is some sort of

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activity occurring on an almost daily

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and that my friends

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to events there to see

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extraterrestrial extra dimensional

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and my concern

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comes from the hunger that i have spoken

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about so many times

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you see the hunger that people have

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for the truth about these subjects

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and of course an even greater hunger

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that people may have to experience

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to be able to see it

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to be able to experience it to be able

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so-called contact like he is claiming on

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now i have to say

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a good cosmic con man i have to give him

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the con that he's running sort of works

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there are flying saucers extra

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contact and all manner of paranormal

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day this happens

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he does not explicitly promise

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these experiences to people that will be

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paying money to attend events at his

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more than implied it is almost

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a certainty that you're going to see

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something but he doesn't say that he

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doesn't say hey

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give me a few hundred dollars to attend

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an event here and you're gonna see

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you know flying saucers and extra

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dimensional entities and portals opening

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up and doorways to other universes he

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doesn't say that he makes all kinds of

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claims that that happens every day

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so certainly the implied

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that you get if you're going to attend

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an event there is that you're gonna see

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and that my friends is the whole draw

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i have spoken with many people who

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wanted to go there and see these things

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with several people who actually have

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seen these so-called paranormal

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if you get an honest person

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who is not simply just a true believer

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who's going to believe anything they see

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you know some people they see a light

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flash in the sky and they're convinced

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that it's an alien

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i'm not talking about those people i'm

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people that are a little more grounded

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perhaps open-minded to having

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just such an experience

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sift through

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the deceptive part to see what what is

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it that i'm really seeing here am i

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seeing just

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flashing lights

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on a mountain off in the distance

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or am i truly seeing something that is

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truly paranormal here

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so i spoke with an acquaintance of mine

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that i know went there

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and in fact mentioned her experience to

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me through email

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uh quite some time ago and what she gave

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the uncomfortable truth

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don't you want to know the truth of what

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happens when you pony up the few hundred

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dollars or whatever it costs to visit

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this place to see these flying saucers

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and extraterrestrial spacecraft

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i want my listeners to know the truth of

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what happens

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when you pay good money to this man

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to see the things that he claims happen

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my source tonight is one of those people

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who truly

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wanted to experience those things

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she's had a lifetime interest in these

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subjects

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she had her own experience and

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experience the things that james gillian

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claims happens on a daily basis at his

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ranch

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she wanted to see the extraterrestrial

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spacecraft she wanted to experience

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contact with technologically and

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spiritually advanced beings

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she wanted to have that experience

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so a great personal expense i might add

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because she lives on the east coast

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uh she bought a plane ticket paid for

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her you know

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for the event there

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and

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headed there sure that she was gonna see

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some aliens

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and i gotta tell you

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what she reported to me

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is

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and

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somewhat expected though

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this

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experience that she describes to me is

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exactly my friends

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exactly

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what i thought

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might

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i mean occam's razor folks

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[Music]

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is there really

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a bunch of extraterrestrials visiting

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this guy's ranch on a daily basis could

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that be the explanation for the lights

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in the sky or could it be my friends

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could it be that there is something

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much simpler at play here

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could it be

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that this man

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is not a truth seeker

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this man is not a visionary

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is not a contactee

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speaking to aliens

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could it be that this man

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is just

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a person exploiting that hunger that

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need

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that desire people have

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to actually have these experiences

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well my friends that

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to be honest is what i suspected about

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this man in this place

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and my source

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confirmed

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almost exactly that for me

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in fact the experience she describes to

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me has been reported to me

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by some three other sources who have

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attended events

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at this man's so-called

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and i think

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based on

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the multitude of people who are

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reporting to me what the real experience

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is versus what the implied experience is

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going to be

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if you shell out a bunch of money to

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this man

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considering we have multiple sources all

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reporting the same thing

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i'm inclined to believe my sources and

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i'm inclined to report

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to the general public what the real

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truth is behind this place so that you

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do not get

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conned as well

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i do not believe that people should pay

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for these experiences unless they are

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genuine

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if this man can prove

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that that light up in the sky is an

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extraterrestrial spacecraft sure i think

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he could charge money for that then

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as long as he provides proof that these

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experiences are truly coming from aliens

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and other dimensional beings then i

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don't have a problem with him charging

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people money for that

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the problem folks the real problem is

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that this man has zero proof

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zero evidence of any of his claims

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sure he's got some grainy videos of some

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lights up in the sky

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but he has never ever

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nor will he ever prove that those lights

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up in the sky or off in the distance in

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the mountains at his ranch

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folks he cannot now

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nor will he ever ever prove that those

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lights up in the sky that people see

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those lights off in the distance in the

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mountains that people see when they

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shell out big bucks to this guy to

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attend an event and see these things

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is extraterrestrial or other dimensional

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or paranormal at all

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he cannot now nor will he ever prove

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so we're going to move on to the first

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source that i mentioned

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and we're going to read excerpts from an

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email that i got from her now i have to

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say this is quite some time ago that i

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got this

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from her she knew that i had a passing

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interest more than a passing interest in

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these subjects

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and sends me an email and in the email

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it was quite expensive but i wanted to

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have these experiences so i bought a

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plane ticket registered myself for an

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event there

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and flew there

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what i got for my money was nothing more

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than a light show i believe

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what we saw while we were there

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was a greatly hyped up bunch of moving

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lights in the sky

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i noted that this man james gillian

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seemed to be constantly checking

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for what time it was

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he seemed to be overly concerned with

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what time it was

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while we were out there

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looking up and doing the sky watch

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suddenly

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there would appear a very dim light

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which to my eyes appeared to be dimmer

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than even a star

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but you could see that there was a light

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and it was slowly slowly moving over the

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james gillian said one of the visitors

430
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is doing a distant flyover right now

431
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because we asked

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that they

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so my source looks up at this and says

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james

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oh no it's not an airplane it's an alien

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spacecraft

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she looks up again and says

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to james

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i believe that that could be a satellite

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00:19:13,029 --> 00:19:12,000
at which point james became visibly

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upset

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with her

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stating that it was a satellite

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and said something to the effect of if

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you don't believe

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you're not helping the rest of us here

447
00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:27,280
who are having a genuine experience

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i gotta tell you friends

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paying big bucks to see what amounts to

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most probably just an airplane flying

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over

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the horizon in the distance or a

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now i have to say that i have various

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unconfirmed reports and sources which

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told me

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that mr james gillian

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memorized

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the

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[Music]

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schedule

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00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:02,559
of

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satellites

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now i don't know if that's true or not

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but

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my first source

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was

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repeated to me over and over again that

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he seemed to be very very concerned with

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what time it was at all times

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and so i think

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the fact that he was so concerned with

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the time

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at all times

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seems to lend some credence and

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credibility to the claims that various

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people have made this man

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has memorized the satellite schedule in

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his area so he would know when a

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satellite would be passing over

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his so-called

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extraterrestrial

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hot spot ranch

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that's very troubling to me as well

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00:21:03,510 --> 00:21:01,190
but oh friends there are more red flags

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00:21:05,110 --> 00:21:03,520
and let's go back to this email from my

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first source

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she also states

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another experience on the second night

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we were directed by james to

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look over at

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a mountain in the distance

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and he said that is where portals to

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other dimensions

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routinely open and close every night

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after some time and again he was very

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concerned with what time it was

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and redirected our attention several

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times to the mountain as nothing was

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happening and we saw nothing

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and suddenly

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lights began to flash off in the

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distance

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several of the other people who were

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there were oohing and eyeing and

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listening as james detailed

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that these were

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extra dimensional portals opening and

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closing that the

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others use

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to her

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she said

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these simply look like

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flashlights

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00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:15,360
headlights or

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00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:22,950
you buy at a camping or emergency supply

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00:22:31,830 --> 00:22:28,470
these did not appear to be anything

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other than white flashing lights

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and to her eyes she believed that there

519
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were people

520
00:22:39,669 --> 00:22:38,400
on that mountain flashing those lights

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on and off

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and that it was nothing paranormal

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whatsoever

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she expressed her belief that those

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00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:48,799
flashing lights could be anything to one

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james gillian who again shut her down

527
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and said i have been here for years

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miss

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and

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i assure you those are the portals

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opening and closing and later tonight

532
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we will see more results of those

533
00:23:09,669 --> 00:23:08,000
portals opening and closing

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later that night

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one james gillian again directed his

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00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:13,679
guests

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00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:16,080
as they were doing this sky watch

538
00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:18,960
directed his guests to look up into the

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sky

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00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:22,880
at a certain time again always being so

541
00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:25,520
very concerned with what time it was

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00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:28,240
and once again they saw a star-like

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00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:29,760
object

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00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:31,039
way off

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00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:33,360
on the horizon in the distance

546
00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:36,960
very very slowly moving

547
00:23:42,950 --> 00:23:40,640
across the horizon above them

548
00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:42,960
again my source expressed that that

549
00:23:47,110 --> 00:23:45,440
could be the international space station

550
00:23:48,549 --> 00:23:47,120
that could be a satellite that could be

551
00:23:52,789 --> 00:23:48,559
an airplane

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00:23:53,909 --> 00:23:52,799
with uh its you know night lights on

553
00:23:56,789 --> 00:23:53,919
and again

554
00:23:58,870 --> 00:23:56,799
james gillian shut her down

555
00:24:00,789 --> 00:23:58,880
and said oh no

556
00:24:02,549 --> 00:24:00,799
that is one of the visitors which came

557
00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:02,559
from the portal

558
00:24:06,149 --> 00:24:04,320
they're making their presence known to

559
00:24:08,630 --> 00:24:06,159
us

560
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:08,640
and you need to stop being skeptical and

561
00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:10,960
open your mind and your heart to this

562
00:24:15,669 --> 00:24:12,640
beautiful experience that we're all

563
00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:15,679
having this genuine experience

564
00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:18,640
she said that several times he mentioned

565
00:24:23,190 --> 00:24:20,640
we're all having a genuine experience

566
00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:23,200
here don't ruin it for the rest of us

567
00:24:28,149 --> 00:24:24,880
and i find that

568
00:24:30,950 --> 00:24:28,159
very troubling because it goes to a cult

569
00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:30,960
like group dynamic don't question the

570
00:24:36,310 --> 00:24:34,159
leader don't ask questions don't be

571
00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:36,320
skeptical he's telling her

572
00:24:40,870 --> 00:24:38,400
just enjoy this

573
00:24:42,630 --> 00:24:40,880
genuine experience

574
00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:42,640
i gotta tell you folks

575
00:24:47,269 --> 00:24:45,360
if he was providing people with a true

576
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:47,279
and genuine experience

577
00:24:49,909 --> 00:24:48,080
then

578
00:24:52,390 --> 00:24:49,919
i don't believe that he would be

579
00:24:54,070 --> 00:24:52,400
shutting people down like that

580
00:24:57,269 --> 00:24:54,080
she said

581
00:25:00,230 --> 00:24:57,279
that as she became more skeptical and

582
00:25:02,549 --> 00:25:00,240
started asking questions he got rude and

583
00:25:04,070 --> 00:25:02,559
confrontational to her even taking her

584
00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:04,080
off to the side

585
00:25:07,830 --> 00:25:06,080
and informing her that she was ruining

586
00:25:10,149 --> 00:25:07,840
the experience for the rest of the

587
00:25:12,789 --> 00:25:10,159
guests and to please refrain from

588
00:25:15,190 --> 00:25:12,799
further questions and skepticism and

589
00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:15,200
that he would answer her questions at a

590
00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:16,960
later time

591
00:25:19,909 --> 00:25:18,880
but she reports

592
00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:19,919
that

593
00:25:25,830 --> 00:25:24,799
many of the other people there

594
00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:25,840
were

595
00:25:30,789 --> 00:25:28,559
let's say more gullible or more willing

596
00:25:32,710 --> 00:25:30,799
to believe this james gillian and his

597
00:25:33,990 --> 00:25:32,720
ridiculous claims of

598
00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:34,000
lights in the sky being

599
00:25:37,350 --> 00:25:35,919
extraterrestrials

600
00:25:41,190 --> 00:25:37,360
instead of more

601
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:41,200
let's say mundane or boring explanation

602
00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:43,200
for what was actually what they were

603
00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:45,840
actually viewing

604
00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:46,960
he did not

605
00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:48,480
allow any

606
00:25:54,110 --> 00:25:51,760
critical thinking or questions about the

607
00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:54,120
experience he simply stated these are

608
00:25:57,590 --> 00:25:56,000
extraterrestrials these are portals

609
00:25:59,830 --> 00:25:57,600
opening

610
00:26:01,269 --> 00:25:59,840
this is a mother ship off in the

611
00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:01,279
distance it's very high in the

612
00:26:04,710 --> 00:26:03,440
atmosphere that's why we can barely see

613
00:26:11,029 --> 00:26:04,720
that

614
00:26:12,870 --> 00:26:11,039
so my source was somewhat critical of

615
00:26:15,669 --> 00:26:12,880
the claims that this man was making and

616
00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:15,679
always getting shut down

617
00:26:21,110 --> 00:26:18,320
and uh this is a direct quote from the

618
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:21,120
email that i have from her which states

619
00:26:26,149 --> 00:26:23,200
i would caution people not to waste

620
00:26:29,430 --> 00:26:26,159
their money on what is essentially

621
00:26:32,470 --> 00:26:29,440
some type of light show satellites or

622
00:26:35,830 --> 00:26:32,480
other terrestrial explainable phenomenon

623
00:26:38,549 --> 00:26:35,840
that this man passes off as paranormal

624
00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:38,559
extra dimensional or extraterrestrial

625
00:26:44,789 --> 00:26:42,320
in order to draw people to his events

626
00:26:47,430 --> 00:26:44,799
and make money i do not believe that the

627
00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:47,440
experience that i had was genuine

628
00:26:52,149 --> 00:26:49,679
extraterrestrials

629
00:26:55,029 --> 00:26:52,159
extra dimensional or anything paranormal

630
00:27:00,390 --> 00:26:55,039
whatsoever in fact i believe

631
00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:02,470
so there we have a direct first-hand

632
00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:04,559
account from someone who visited this

633
00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:06,240
place

634
00:27:12,070 --> 00:27:09,120
and i have to say

635
00:27:15,909 --> 00:27:12,080
it gets more and more troubling as you

636
00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:15,919
look into this man james gillian and his

637
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:17,279
claims

638
00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:18,320
of

639
00:27:22,230 --> 00:27:19,679
you know

640
00:27:24,149 --> 00:27:22,240
being some kind of ufo contactee that

641
00:27:26,549 --> 00:27:24,159
can call in aliens

642
00:27:28,630 --> 00:27:26,559
so other people can have that experience

643
00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:28,640
and have contact

644
00:27:32,470 --> 00:27:30,720
folks you're not having contact with

645
00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:32,480
extraterrestrials you're having contact

646
00:27:38,070 --> 00:27:35,440
with a light in the sky which

647
00:27:41,190 --> 00:27:38,080
i mean ask anybody that's familiar with

648
00:27:42,789 --> 00:27:41,200
ufos a light in the sky could literally

649
00:27:44,549 --> 00:27:42,799
be anything

650
00:27:45,909 --> 00:27:44,559
it could be

651
00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:45,919
a flare

652
00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:48,559
that is being carried aloft by a weather

653
00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:49,919
balloon

654
00:27:55,430 --> 00:27:53,440
it could be chinese lanterns

655
00:27:59,269 --> 00:27:55,440
it could be atmospheric

656
00:28:01,750 --> 00:27:59,279
phenomenon it could be ball lightning

657
00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:01,760
it could be

658
00:28:09,430 --> 00:28:07,679
helicopter with a searchlight

659
00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:09,440
it could be

660
00:28:15,029 --> 00:28:11,600
drones

661
00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:15,039
that uh are carrying aloft some form of

662
00:28:18,870 --> 00:28:16,640
lighting

663
00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:18,880
and i have to tell you folks as drones

664
00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:21,440
become more and more popular with people

665
00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:23,200
as sort of a hobby

666
00:28:27,110 --> 00:28:25,120
or a thing to play with

667
00:28:29,269 --> 00:28:27,120
ufo reports

668
00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:29,279
suddenly become easier and easier to

669
00:28:33,669 --> 00:28:31,520
explain because

670
00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:33,679
really there are drones everywhere i

671
00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:35,200
have a neighbor

672
00:28:40,230 --> 00:28:37,520
at my cabin in the mountains it's in the

673
00:28:43,029 --> 00:28:40,240
middle of nowhere and he has a very

674
00:28:45,669 --> 00:28:43,039
impressive very large i have to say

675
00:28:47,190 --> 00:28:45,679
uh you know remote control drone that he

676
00:28:49,590 --> 00:28:47,200
has lights on

677
00:28:51,909 --> 00:28:49,600
and glow-in-the-dark strips

678
00:28:53,669 --> 00:28:51,919
and uh i gotta tell you the first time i

679
00:28:56,789 --> 00:28:53,679
saw it i was kind of like oh my god

680
00:28:59,029 --> 00:28:56,799
what's that this is awesome and then

681
00:29:02,630 --> 00:28:59,039
i got closer and realized i could hear

682
00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:02,640
the wearing of the electric you know

683
00:29:06,549 --> 00:29:04,080
uh

684
00:29:08,389 --> 00:29:06,559
blades you know and the motor and and

685
00:29:10,630 --> 00:29:08,399
realize right away

686
00:29:13,510 --> 00:29:10,640
okay this is a drone and eventually i

687
00:29:15,669 --> 00:29:13,520
met the person who was actually

688
00:29:17,909 --> 00:29:15,679
responsible for controlling and flying

689
00:29:19,269 --> 00:29:17,919
that drone

690
00:29:20,710 --> 00:29:19,279
so

691
00:29:23,029 --> 00:29:20,720
what were

692
00:29:24,870 --> 00:29:23,039
what i'm getting to is that this man

693
00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:24,880
showing people lights in the sky after

694
00:29:29,669 --> 00:29:27,279
taking a whole bunch of money from them

695
00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:29,679
i have to tell you folks it's it's not

696
00:29:34,630 --> 00:29:32,080
just immoral and unethical

697
00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:34,640
if this man is truly just showing people

698
00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:36,320
satellites and he's taking their money

699
00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:38,480
claiming its extraterrestrials

700
00:29:43,269 --> 00:29:40,960
then again i'm no lawyer that seems to

701
00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:43,279
me to amount to some form of fraud and a

702
00:29:48,149 --> 00:29:45,600
criminal act but

703
00:29:50,710 --> 00:29:48,159
i leave that to you know the local

704
00:29:51,669 --> 00:29:50,720
officials and apparently

705
00:29:54,149 --> 00:29:51,679
uh

706
00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:54,159
the local officials are very well aware

707
00:30:00,430 --> 00:29:57,600
of mr james gillian and his

708
00:30:02,870 --> 00:30:00,440
nefarious activities at this so-called

709
00:30:05,029 --> 00:30:02,880
e-city ranch

710
00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:05,039
in fact

711
00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:08,640
he has had quite a battle with the local

712
00:30:11,909 --> 00:30:09,840
officials

713
00:30:15,669 --> 00:30:11,919
over his events there

714
00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:15,679
and a apparently disgruntled former

715
00:30:19,909 --> 00:30:18,640
volunteer or employee there reported him

716
00:30:22,310 --> 00:30:19,919
to the

717
00:30:24,149 --> 00:30:22,320
local county and they came down on him

718
00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:24,159
because he has

719
00:30:27,909 --> 00:30:26,080
you know buildings and things that were

720
00:30:29,669 --> 00:30:27,919
constructed there on this ranch

721
00:30:33,110 --> 00:30:29,679
including a home

722
00:30:34,470 --> 00:30:33,120
with zero permits and he had

723
00:30:37,029 --> 00:30:34,480
you know

724
00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:37,039
i suppose building code violations and

725
00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:38,640
there's the additional problem that he

726
00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:40,320
has that he has no

727
00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:41,600
business

728
00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:44,320
permits or license he has no

729
00:30:47,669 --> 00:30:45,600
you know he doesn't have a board of

730
00:30:50,470 --> 00:30:47,679
health certificate to be serving food

731
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:50,480
there and all of these you know there's

732
00:30:55,510 --> 00:30:52,320
a lot of legal

733
00:30:56,630 --> 00:30:55,520
stuff that he just never bothered to do

734
00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:56,640
uh

735
00:31:01,509 --> 00:30:58,799
near as i can tell from the sources that

736
00:31:03,350 --> 00:31:01,519
i gathered from the local community and

737
00:31:06,470 --> 00:31:03,360
so he has come into

738
00:31:07,990 --> 00:31:06,480
quite a bit of conflict with the locals

739
00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:08,000
there over

740
00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:09,360
his

741
00:31:27,990 --> 00:31:24,710
so it's no

742
00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:28,000
i guess surprise that this james gillian

743
00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:28,960
has

744
00:31:33,269 --> 00:31:31,200
had problems with the

745
00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:33,279
local county officials

746
00:31:42,070 --> 00:31:37,519
and in fact i found a gofundme

747
00:31:44,710 --> 00:31:42,080
where he raised 21 617 dollars

748
00:31:46,630 --> 00:31:44,720
for legal expenses to fight with the

749
00:31:49,029 --> 00:31:46,640
community and i'm going to read you

750
00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:49,039
excerpts from his gofundme page for that

751
00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:50,720
east city ranch is currently facing

752
00:31:54,710 --> 00:31:52,480
challenges from the county to stay open

753
00:31:57,509 --> 00:31:54,720
to our friends and family for sky

754
00:31:59,110 --> 00:31:57,519
watching and small spiritual gatherings

755
00:32:01,110 --> 00:31:59,120
we have been fighting this battle for

756
00:32:03,110 --> 00:32:01,120
over a year and faced demonstrated

757
00:32:05,190 --> 00:32:03,120
discrimination bias and harassment from

758
00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:05,200
the land use commission and planning

759
00:32:09,029 --> 00:32:07,600
department of

760
00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:09,039
g

761
00:32:12,789 --> 00:32:11,440
click cat county because of our views

762
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:12,799
are different from those shared by

763
00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:14,720
county officials

764
00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:16,640
in addition to land use challenges we've

765
00:32:20,070 --> 00:32:17,760
also been told that none of our

766
00:32:22,070 --> 00:32:20,080
buildings including our main residents

767
00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:22,080
are allowed and are permanent and we do

768
00:32:26,630 --> 00:32:23,760
not have the right to reside in any

769
00:32:29,430 --> 00:32:26,640
building on the property

770
00:32:30,870 --> 00:32:29,440
regardless of necessary permits on file

771
00:32:33,909 --> 00:32:30,880
we are also

772
00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:33,919
a working farm and committed to creating

773
00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:36,240
a sustainable lifestyle as a model for a

774
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:39,840
more sustainable way of living of living

775
00:32:42,789 --> 00:32:41,519
as a result of these ongoing challenges

776
00:32:44,230 --> 00:32:42,799
we have had to hire an attorney

777
00:32:46,149 --> 00:32:44,240
specializing in these matters to

778
00:32:48,149 --> 00:32:46,159
represent us in this process

779
00:32:49,509 --> 00:32:48,159
we have a court date scheduled for june

780
00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:49,519
the legal fees for this battle are

781
00:32:52,710 --> 00:32:51,200
melting at this time where now we will

782
00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:52,720
meet those financial needs and it has

783
00:32:56,230 --> 00:32:54,880
drained our available resources we have

784
00:32:58,070 --> 00:32:56,240
been told that our legal fees are

785
00:33:00,549 --> 00:32:58,080
estimated to be fifteen thousand dollars

786
00:33:01,590 --> 00:33:00,559
and resolve all aspects of these

787
00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:01,600
challenges

788
00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:03,360
our legal team has advised us that we

789
00:33:07,350 --> 00:33:05,360
have a solid case and demonstrated bias

790
00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:07,360
from county officials but that

791
00:33:12,789 --> 00:33:09,600
it is not possible to fight this battle

792
00:33:14,549 --> 00:33:12,799
with without more financial resources

793
00:33:17,110 --> 00:33:14,559
so he goes to gofundme

794
00:33:20,389 --> 00:33:17,120
begging the ufo community to pay for his

795
00:33:21,909 --> 00:33:20,399
legal expenses

796
00:33:23,430 --> 00:33:21,919
and i you know

797
00:33:25,029 --> 00:33:23,440
he goes on to say we are asking for

798
00:33:27,029 --> 00:33:25,039
support from our friends and he said he

799
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:27,039
family to allow us to continue this very

800
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:28,799
important work

801
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:31,120
he says we have been existence

802
00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:33,360
we have been in existence for 25 years

803
00:33:37,269 --> 00:33:35,279
as a non-profit organization and

804
00:33:39,190 --> 00:33:37,279
continue to offer a variety of events

805
00:33:40,789 --> 00:33:39,200
both on site and online many of which

806
00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:40,799
are free to the public

807
00:33:44,950 --> 00:33:42,960
all other activities are on a donation

808
00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:44,960
basis as we are a non-profit

809
00:33:49,190 --> 00:33:46,720
organization

810
00:33:51,590 --> 00:33:49,200
now i find that line all other

811
00:33:54,870 --> 00:33:51,600
activities are on a donation basis as we

812
00:33:56,149 --> 00:33:54,880
are a non-profit organization troubling

813
00:33:58,230 --> 00:33:56,159
because

814
00:34:01,750 --> 00:33:58,240
there are set fees

815
00:34:03,190 --> 00:34:01,760
to to my knowledge to go to

816
00:34:05,750 --> 00:34:03,200
you know some of the conferences and

817
00:34:07,430 --> 00:34:05,760
things that he has he doesn't say

818
00:34:08,950 --> 00:34:07,440
you can show up and pay whatever you

819
00:34:11,109 --> 00:34:08,960
wish as a donation since we're a

820
00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:11,119
non-profit like a church

821
00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:12,480
there's a set amount that you're

822
00:34:17,990 --> 00:34:14,639
supposed to pay

823
00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:19,589
he says we have never asked for this

824
00:34:23,430 --> 00:34:21,599
type of support and we hesitate to do so

825
00:34:25,109 --> 00:34:23,440
now in light of the current economic and

826
00:34:27,270 --> 00:34:25,119
social unrest being experienced all

827
00:34:29,510 --> 00:34:27,280
around us but we have no choice than to

828
00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:29,520
reach out to each of you for assistance

829
00:34:33,109 --> 00:34:31,280
any amount helps

830
00:34:34,470 --> 00:34:33,119
this work is more important now than

831
00:34:36,149 --> 00:34:34,480
ever and through your support we can

832
00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:36,159
continue to be of service to those that

833
00:34:44,710 --> 00:34:38,399
are on the path to self mastery and

834
00:34:49,669 --> 00:34:47,909
and uh boy i gotta say that he also this

835
00:34:52,069 --> 00:34:49,679
is a line that's

836
00:34:54,389 --> 00:34:52,079
i remember from

837
00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:54,399
reading this before an unprecedented

838
00:34:59,589 --> 00:34:56,480
event is unfolding in a small town known

839
00:35:01,109 --> 00:34:59,599
as trout lake washington this has this

840
00:35:03,109 --> 00:35:01,119
event has the potential to change the

841
00:35:03,580 --> 00:35:03,119
course and destiny of humanity and the

842
00:35:06,870 --> 00:35:03,590
earth

843
00:35:11,430 --> 00:35:09,510
the technologies to end disease clean up

844
00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:11,440
and restore the environment fuel-less

845
00:35:15,670 --> 00:35:13,760
energy technologies and the virtual keys

846
00:35:17,829 --> 00:35:15,680
to utopia have been

847
00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:17,839
decimated and are waiting for

848
00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:23,670
a whole new world is unfolding for those

849
00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:26,000
with the courage to accept it

850
00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:27,520
contact with spiritually and

851
00:35:31,589 --> 00:35:29,440
technologically advanced extra and

852
00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:31,599
ultra-terrestrial off-world visitors

853
00:35:36,870 --> 00:35:34,000
which we refer to as the greater family

854
00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:36,880
of man has occurred at the home of james

855
00:35:41,589 --> 00:35:38,240
hillian

856
00:35:45,270 --> 00:35:41,599
known as the e-city ranch

857
00:35:46,390 --> 00:35:45,280
and boy i gotta tell you folks uh

858
00:35:49,109 --> 00:35:46,400
you know i

859
00:35:50,710 --> 00:35:49,119
i this this gofundme was created on

860
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:50,720
march 23rd

861
00:35:53,910 --> 00:35:52,240
2011.

862
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,920
so

863
00:35:57,510 --> 00:35:55,680
uh

864
00:36:00,790 --> 00:35:57,520
and i got to tell you that there's

865
00:36:02,630 --> 00:36:00,800
another gofundme so he made

866
00:36:04,870 --> 00:36:02,640
let's see 21 000

867
00:36:07,510 --> 00:36:04,880
off of this first gofundme

868
00:36:11,990 --> 00:36:07,520
and he started another gofundme in

869
00:36:14,069 --> 00:36:12,000
january of 2016. and this one was for

870
00:36:16,470 --> 00:36:14,079
storm damage repair and he shows a

871
00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:16,480
picture of like uh looks like a fallen

872
00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:19,280
down shed or something and some snow i

873
00:36:22,790 --> 00:36:20,400
don't know

874
00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:22,800
aloha e city family this is what he

875
00:36:25,910 --> 00:36:24,240
writes in the gofundme as you can see

876
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:25,920
from the photos above the ranch has

877
00:36:30,069 --> 00:36:28,320
twice been hit by storm damage

878
00:36:31,750 --> 00:36:30,079
in early december a flood caused the

879
00:36:33,270 --> 00:36:31,760
pond to overflow the conference hall

880
00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:33,280
basement to flood

881
00:36:37,589 --> 00:36:35,280
the gully to turn into rushing turret

882
00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:37,599
and the yurts to flood then in early

883
00:36:42,310 --> 00:36:39,440
january the ranch experienced extensive

884
00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:42,320
damage after weeks of heavy snowfall the

885
00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:43,920
roof to the greenhouse oh that's what it

886
00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:45,599
is it's not a shed it's a greenhouse the

887
00:36:50,230 --> 00:36:48,079
roof to the greenhouse has collapsed

888
00:36:51,670 --> 00:36:50,240
the aquaponics setup was damaged and we

889
00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:51,680
also experienced some damage to the

890
00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:52,880
conference hall

891
00:36:57,430 --> 00:36:54,880
this damage coupled with the rain damage

892
00:36:59,109 --> 00:36:57,440
is threatening the opening of e-city

893
00:37:01,190 --> 00:36:59,119
this spring

894
00:37:02,870 --> 00:37:01,200
we are holding this fundraising to raise

895
00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:02,880
money to repair the damage caused by

896
00:37:06,790 --> 00:37:04,960
these two storms so that each city can

897
00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:06,800
continue to provide our community with

898
00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:09,040
healing educational services and star

899
00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:10,560
family awareness

900
00:37:14,710 --> 00:37:12,400
that is james mission

901
00:37:16,870 --> 00:37:14,720
and the e-city crew's passion

902
00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:16,880
any support is appreciated as it all

903
00:37:21,829 --> 00:37:19,280
adds up if the funds raised exceed our

904
00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:21,839
state at target

905
00:37:25,829 --> 00:37:23,760
which is based on estimates we have

906
00:37:27,829 --> 00:37:25,839
received to repair the damage we will

907
00:37:29,829 --> 00:37:27,839
embark on two additional projects

908
00:37:32,550 --> 00:37:29,839
building 10 new cabins for our guest

909
00:37:34,950 --> 00:37:32,560
accommodation and purchasing new fourth

910
00:37:37,510 --> 00:37:34,960
generation technology for recording ufos

911
00:37:39,829 --> 00:37:37,520
and black ops helicopters he said he

912
00:37:41,670 --> 00:37:39,839
ranch is a non-profit organization and

913
00:37:43,829 --> 00:37:41,680
all donations will go to facility

914
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:43,839
repairs and the two new projects stated

915
00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:48,870
so for that gofundme he raised fifteen

916
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:51,839
thousand five hundred and twenty dollars

917
00:37:58,630 --> 00:37:52,640
uh

918
00:38:00,230 --> 00:37:58,640
which

919
00:38:01,910 --> 00:38:00,240
i don't know it just says this campaign

920
00:38:02,630 --> 00:38:01,920
is completely no longer active and that

921
00:38:05,349 --> 00:38:02,640
one

922
00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:05,359
was to make a movie the uncontrolled

923
00:38:10,950 --> 00:38:07,040
ufo's the uncontrolled narrative and

924
00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:14,160
so here we have you know i don't know

925
00:38:19,510 --> 00:38:15,520
[Music]

926
00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:21,510
like thirty eight thousand dollars

927
00:38:25,589 --> 00:38:23,359
raised on gofundme

928
00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:25,599
uh for various things

929
00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:28,240
which again i find troubling if this man

930
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:29,040
is

931
00:38:33,589 --> 00:38:30,960
taking donations

932
00:38:35,030 --> 00:38:33,599
or you know making people pay money to

933
00:38:37,349 --> 00:38:35,040
see these

934
00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:37,359
so-called extraterrestrial visitations

935
00:38:40,550 --> 00:38:38,880
every time somebody visits there they're

936
00:38:42,150 --> 00:38:40,560
expected to pay

937
00:38:44,790 --> 00:38:42,160
then i you know i find it a little

938
00:38:46,630 --> 00:38:44,800
suspect that when there's rain damage to

939
00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:46,640
a greenhouse or storm damage to a

940
00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:48,800
greenhouse he has to go to gofundme and

941
00:38:53,589 --> 00:38:51,520
get fifteen thousand dollars to fix that

942
00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:53,599
instead of just paying for it out of his

943
00:38:57,910 --> 00:38:55,440
normal funds

944
00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:57,920
this claim of being a non-profit

945
00:39:01,190 --> 00:38:59,280
organization

946
00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:01,200
is also troubling to me it's a bit like

947
00:39:07,510 --> 00:39:03,280
a church that you know

948
00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:07,520
the pastor is always asking for money

949
00:39:12,550 --> 00:39:10,240
and if you look into james gillian

950
00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:12,560
that is what you get he's kind of like

951
00:39:17,190 --> 00:39:14,640
one of those christian pastors that's

952
00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:17,200
always you know i i like the george

953
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:19,440
carlin saying god is all powerful

954
00:39:24,150 --> 00:39:20,800
omnipotent

955
00:39:26,710 --> 00:39:24,160
and you know can accomplish anything

956
00:39:28,390 --> 00:39:26,720
but he always needs money

957
00:39:30,790 --> 00:39:28,400
and that's what we get from james

958
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:30,800
gillian he just always needs money he's

959
00:39:35,829 --> 00:39:33,119
always out there trying to raise money

960
00:39:37,030 --> 00:39:35,839
which i don't know if if a man is you

961
00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:37,040
know god

962
00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:38,720
truly feels like he's got a genuine

963
00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:41,680
mission in life to do this and he is not

964
00:39:46,230 --> 00:39:43,680
being a cosmic con man

965
00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:46,240
then good for him he's raising money to

966
00:39:50,150 --> 00:39:48,720
do what he's passionate about and

967
00:39:52,470 --> 00:39:50,160
apparently people are willing to

968
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:52,480
contribute to that

969
00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:56,880
but what if what he is doing is

970
00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:58,400
i don't know uh

971
00:40:01,270 --> 00:39:59,920
you know selling

972
00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:01,280
a fairy tale

973
00:40:04,710 --> 00:40:03,599
that's not real

974
00:40:07,270 --> 00:40:04,720
and

975
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:07,280
passing off

976
00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:09,280
everyday lights in the sky like

977
00:40:13,349 --> 00:40:11,200
satellites or airplanes as

978
00:40:15,109 --> 00:40:13,359
extraterrestrial spacecraft to his

979
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:15,119
paying visitors

980
00:40:19,349 --> 00:40:17,040
then i have a problem with him being a

981
00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:19,359
non-profit and

982
00:40:22,870 --> 00:40:21,839
i don't think that

983
00:40:24,390 --> 00:40:22,880
that's

984
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:24,400
something

985
00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:27,680
that should go on it should not continue

986
00:40:31,349 --> 00:40:28,880
in fact

987
00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:31,359
you know i kind of believe that

988
00:40:35,349 --> 00:40:33,280
if the man is making these claims all

989
00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:35,359
these extraterrestrial claims and people

990
00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:37,119
are paying money based on these claims

991
00:40:41,109 --> 00:40:38,480
then he should have to prove those

992
00:40:43,670 --> 00:40:41,119
claims or he should

993
00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:43,680
not be allowed to make those claims and

994
00:40:48,309 --> 00:40:45,760
then take money from people

995
00:40:50,309 --> 00:40:48,319
uh taking money from people and then

996
00:40:52,470 --> 00:40:50,319
telling them that's an extraterrestrial

997
00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:52,480
spacecraft when it is in fact a

998
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:53,680
satellite

999
00:40:56,309 --> 00:40:54,640
or

1000
00:40:59,430 --> 00:40:56,319
headlights

1001
00:41:01,750 --> 00:40:59,440
or you know anything that's

1002
00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:01,760
not paranormal that's not what he says

1003
00:41:07,030 --> 00:41:04,800
it is then that would be fraud

1004
00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:07,040
he's taking money under false pretenses

1005
00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:09,040
if these things are not genuine that he

1006
00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:12,800
is describing to his visitors

1007
00:41:17,829 --> 00:41:15,040
but i gotta say folks it gets worse

1008
00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:17,839
because we have another source which is

1009
00:41:23,589 --> 00:41:20,400
an insider a person who worked at the

1010
00:41:26,309 --> 00:41:23,599
ranch for quite some time and this man

1011
00:41:28,150 --> 00:41:26,319
does not have very many good things to

1012
00:41:31,270 --> 00:41:28,160
say about one

1013
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:31,280
james gillian

1014
00:41:34,309 --> 00:41:32,640
and we're going to play you a clip from

1015
00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:34,319
that i'm going to cite fair use because

1016
00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:36,160
we're going to be discussing

1017
00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:38,000
exactly what it is

1018
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:40,720
that this man is talking about

1019
00:41:45,990 --> 00:41:42,240
and i have to say

1020
00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:46,000
in this clip this man describes

1021
00:41:52,470 --> 00:41:49,040
james gillian being

1022
00:42:00,829 --> 00:41:56,069
sexually deviant or

1023
00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:03,750
guests or co-workers

1024
00:42:07,589 --> 00:42:06,000
and i have gotten various various

1025
00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:07,599
reports of this

1026
00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:10,160
uh so it's not just this one source

1027
00:42:14,230 --> 00:42:12,160
saying that

1028
00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:14,240
you know this man is uh

1029
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:16,800
quite a creepy guy when it comes to some

1030
00:42:21,829 --> 00:42:20,000
of these women that attend these events

1031
00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:21,839
so be warned ladies if you're going to

1032
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:24,640
go to that to this place

1033
00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:27,040
and deal with any events with this man

1034
00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:29,200
that he has a history

1035
00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:32,960
and a reputation for being this way with

1036
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:34,240
women

1037
00:42:38,230 --> 00:42:37,200
please be cautious be very careful if

1038
00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:38,240
you are

1039
00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:40,400
in contact with this man in any way

1040
00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:43,200
whatsoever i think that's a fair warning

1041
00:42:48,950 --> 00:42:46,480
to the women in the community based on

1042
00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:48,960
all of the reports that we have of this

1043
00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:55,190
let's play a clip of this former

1044
00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:57,839
employee talking about his experience

1045
00:43:01,990 --> 00:42:59,119
working at

1046
00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:02,000
this so-called e-setting ranch

1047
00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:03,599
[Music]

1048
00:43:07,349 --> 00:43:05,760
i thought she gone brought real value i

1049
00:43:09,910 --> 00:43:07,359
learned how to edit videos i was doing

1050
00:43:11,109 --> 00:43:09,920
huge conventions i learned how to make

1051
00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:11,119
flyers and

1052
00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:13,280
make presentations and other multimedia

1053
00:43:16,950 --> 00:43:15,359
guy you know

1054
00:43:22,150 --> 00:43:16,960
the other girl had business uh

1055
00:43:26,870 --> 00:43:24,470
coordinated verizon and all that stuff

1056
00:43:28,069 --> 00:43:26,880
and the other people did the farm

1057
00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:28,079
the new

1058
00:43:33,030 --> 00:43:30,720
new team the one guy who's kind of

1059
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:33,040
odd left right so it's all new team i

1060
00:43:37,270 --> 00:43:34,720
was a senior there they're the longest

1061
00:43:40,150 --> 00:43:37,280
man we're off super dumb hole in living

1062
00:43:41,829 --> 00:43:40,160
in service

1063
00:43:43,589 --> 00:43:41,839
um

1064
00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:43,599
and there was county issues

1065
00:43:47,589 --> 00:43:45,359
what happened was one of the volunteers

1066
00:43:50,790 --> 00:43:47,599
there left and um

1067
00:43:53,109 --> 00:43:50,800
he got sour reported him to the county

1068
00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:53,119
and uh connie started inspecting what 30

1069
00:43:57,030 --> 00:43:54,480
permits and clothes and stuff like that

1070
00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:57,040
you know because

1071
00:44:01,750 --> 00:43:59,200
he wasn't quite

1072
00:44:03,030 --> 00:44:01,760
integral with his dealings

1073
00:44:04,870 --> 00:44:03,040
and so um

1074
00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:04,880
you know we already see this with his 24

1075
00:44:12,230 --> 00:44:07,200
year old girlfriend and now this

1076
00:44:15,910 --> 00:44:14,230
that was a little that was rough you

1077
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:15,920
know so that funny issue started going

1078
00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:16,720
on

1079
00:44:19,670 --> 00:44:18,400
but uh we'll go to the next slide and

1080
00:44:22,150 --> 00:44:19,680
i'm trying to just kind of lay the

1081
00:44:24,309 --> 00:44:22,160
foundation for to to create a picture

1082
00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:24,319
yeah some of the red flags that i saw it

1083
00:44:26,950 --> 00:44:25,760
was finally the grid you guys ever heard

1084
00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:26,960
of the grid

1085
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:27,760
yeah

1086
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:29,520
there was a point in time where you know

1087
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:30,720
um

1088
00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:32,240
there's this one lady who had a death

1089
00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:48,710
they told her that you know you need to

1090
00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:50,560
teach people how to like uh raise the

1091
00:44:54,069 --> 00:44:52,000
vibration and help activate the planet

1092
00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:54,079
so they had this meditation called find

1093
00:44:57,910 --> 00:44:55,760
a grid this is like worldwide where

1094
00:44:59,829 --> 00:44:57,920
people gather for one

1095
00:45:02,470 --> 00:44:59,839
hour or something right in a certain

1096
00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:02,480
date to help focus on love or something

1097
00:45:06,069 --> 00:45:04,400
to help or raise the vibration of time

1098
00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:06,079
there were like millions of people all

1099
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:08,160
over the world yeah who had militant

1100
00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:09,839
there were three fire the grids

1101
00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:11,440
and so what i went there was there was

1102
00:45:15,670 --> 00:45:13,440
just one fire on the grid and i told you

1103
00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:15,680
two thousand oh there's 500 grit today

1104
00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:17,599
like oh really okay

1105
00:45:22,710 --> 00:45:19,920
so we go and again he has a gift and

1106
00:45:24,710 --> 00:45:22,720
ability in tapping into other people

1107
00:45:26,150 --> 00:45:24,720
you know it's not my gift

1108
00:45:27,270 --> 00:45:26,160
so i thought oh it's rather great we

1109
00:45:28,630 --> 00:45:27,280
should

1110
00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:28,640
tap in

1111
00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:30,800
send some energy to the grin

1112
00:45:35,589 --> 00:45:34,240
oh okay so we go down

1113
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:35,599
to the one of the room

1114
00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:38,800
he does his thing call thee

1115
00:45:42,309 --> 00:45:40,480
calls his guy in

1116
00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:42,319
and tell me okay fire the grid sense of

1117
00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:43,200
energy

1118
00:45:47,109 --> 00:45:44,960
okay cool done

1119
00:45:48,470 --> 00:45:47,119
like three minutes

1120
00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:48,480
i was like what

1121
00:45:51,990 --> 00:45:50,160
that's it

1122
00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:52,000
the the higher the higher dimension of

1123
00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:53,920
beings got it they'll they'll go farther

1124
00:45:56,870 --> 00:45:54,720
grid

1125
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:56,880
are like what

1126
00:45:59,349 --> 00:45:58,079
serious

1127
00:46:01,030 --> 00:45:59,359
do you call the higher base to make

1128
00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:01,040
lucky away

1129
00:46:07,349 --> 00:46:05,910
what are you talking about

1130
00:46:09,109 --> 00:46:07,359
it's crazy

1131
00:46:10,630 --> 00:46:09,119
call the higher base to fry the grit

1132
00:46:11,990 --> 00:46:10,640
this is our planet

1133
00:46:13,109 --> 00:46:12,000
we need to save this we need to turn

1134
00:46:14,550 --> 00:46:13,119
this around

1135
00:46:15,510 --> 00:46:14,560
that's how i feel

1136
00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:15,520
you know

1137
00:46:19,030 --> 00:46:17,200
that's how i feel we need to turn this

1138
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:19,040
thing around he tapped in he called the

1139
00:46:21,750 --> 00:46:20,400
higher beings and

1140
00:46:24,069 --> 00:46:21,760
fire the grid

1141
00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:24,079
not even three minutes

1142
00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:26,640
so so that's that's the first one

1143
00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:28,400
next one was like shopping grocery

1144
00:46:31,109 --> 00:46:29,680
shopping you know one time moving

1145
00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:31,119
grocery shopping so i'm just talking

1146
00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:32,480
about red flags

1147
00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:34,560
again i have a certain community i think

1148
00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:36,240
i've learned some stuff by now you know

1149
00:46:41,670 --> 00:46:38,480
what i mean after t1000

1150
00:46:43,990 --> 00:46:41,680
so we went grocery shopping and then

1151
00:46:45,910 --> 00:46:44,000
you know there's about

1152
00:46:48,309 --> 00:46:45,920
four of us living there

1153
00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:48,319
four or five of us plus him was six

1154
00:46:51,510 --> 00:46:50,319
and uh we went grocery shopping we

1155
00:46:53,589 --> 00:46:51,520
brought in so much money he was so

1156
00:46:54,710 --> 00:46:53,599
grateful that he bought a ticket for me

1157
00:46:56,069 --> 00:46:54,720
i didn't ask

1158
00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:56,079
but he was so grateful because we

1159
00:46:59,190 --> 00:46:57,520
brought in so much money

1160
00:47:00,710 --> 00:46:59,200
so he was buying groceries i mean

1161
00:47:02,630 --> 00:47:00,720
groceries are supposed to be six hours

1162
00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:02,640
you know people working and bringing in

1163
00:47:06,069 --> 00:47:04,640
so much money that uh they're using

1164
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:06,079
grocery shopping and then one time he

1165
00:47:09,430 --> 00:47:06,960
goes

1166
00:47:11,349 --> 00:47:09,440
through about 200

1167
00:47:12,710 --> 00:47:11,359
a lot of grocery shopping he goes man

1168
00:47:16,470 --> 00:47:12,720
every time i go to the grocery store

1169
00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:16,480
it's like 500 pounds a dream

1170
00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:17,599
what

1171
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:18,960
down the drain

1172
00:47:22,630 --> 00:47:20,319
your team

1173
00:47:25,430 --> 00:47:22,640
has been living here in service

1174
00:47:27,190 --> 00:47:25,440
working day in and day out

1175
00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:27,200
bringing all this money and it's

1176
00:47:31,349 --> 00:47:29,440
children down the drain

1177
00:47:32,390 --> 00:47:31,359
and it just pooped on me and i was like

1178
00:47:35,510 --> 00:47:32,400
what

1179
00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:38,069
you know we hear about all this earth

1180
00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:39,760
changes and all this destruction and

1181
00:47:44,390 --> 00:47:42,160
chaos you know now

1182
00:47:45,510 --> 00:47:44,400
tsunami right earthquakes and stuff like

1183
00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:45,520
that you know and so he was buying

1184
00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:47,680
silver i was helping buy silver and

1185
00:47:50,470 --> 00:47:49,359
kiss economy crashes and stuff like that

1186
00:47:52,230 --> 00:47:50,480
you know

1187
00:47:54,950 --> 00:47:52,240
and uh they're talking about hawaii

1188
00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:54,960
might might be going down you know now

1189
00:47:59,430 --> 00:47:57,520
there's a tsunami and all that stuff

1190
00:48:00,870 --> 00:47:59,440
and i was like oh yeah you know i gotta

1191
00:48:01,990 --> 00:48:00,880
go to town and help my mom pick up some

1192
00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:02,000
silver

1193
00:48:05,430 --> 00:48:02,880
he goes

1194
00:48:07,589 --> 00:48:05,440
why it's gonna go down anyway

1195
00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:07,599
okay what

1196
00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:09,520
dude my mom lives there

1197
00:48:12,710 --> 00:48:11,040
i'm gonna go pass this over for my mom

1198
00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:12,720
to prepare and you're saying that it's

1199
00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:14,319
gonna go down here and just walks away

1200
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:15,119
though

1201
00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:20,470
whatever man you get you

1202
00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:21,520
crazy

1203
00:48:24,390 --> 00:48:22,960
and we used to laugh and joke they're

1204
00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:24,400
like dude

1205
00:48:27,430 --> 00:48:25,920
anything with boobs and legs and this

1206
00:48:29,589 --> 00:48:27,440
guy's on it

1207
00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:29,599
it's gonna be senior citizen anything

1208
00:48:32,870 --> 00:48:30,880
with boots and legs and a lot of the

1209
00:48:34,790 --> 00:48:32,880
girls there would be like that come up

1210
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:34,800
and they'll be like dude what's going on

1211
00:48:40,390 --> 00:48:35,680
you know

1212
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:43,349
always classic classic move is oh man my

1213
00:48:45,670 --> 00:48:44,400
back's messed up you know can you

1214
00:48:47,829 --> 00:48:45,680
massage me

1215
00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:47,839
i've heard stories

1216
00:48:51,910 --> 00:48:49,359
where he asked one of the girls who was

1217
00:48:53,990 --> 00:48:51,920
living there

1218
00:48:54,790 --> 00:48:54,000
to work on him and

1219
00:49:09,750 --> 00:48:54,800
he

1220
00:49:11,109 --> 00:49:09,760
like

1221
00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:11,119
it did not sit right with me because

1222
00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:12,640
like

1223
00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:14,240
i was always calling down the masters

1224
00:49:16,710 --> 00:49:14,960
and

1225
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:16,720
if it was a guy it would be like they

1226
00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:18,400
could just like

1227
00:49:21,670 --> 00:49:19,599
have the masters come and heal that

1228
00:49:23,670 --> 00:49:21,680
that's about done it was

1229
00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:23,680
that who's in the legs

1230
00:49:41,190 --> 00:49:26,480
we got connections

1231
00:49:44,710 --> 00:49:43,109
talk about operating from survival sex

1232
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:44,720
and power

1233
00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:46,400
well so here's a

1234
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:49,200
man who is an insider who spent

1235
00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:51,760
i believe almost two years there at the

1236
00:49:55,270 --> 00:49:53,200
ranch

1237
00:49:57,829 --> 00:49:55,280
teaching classes and

1238
00:49:59,349 --> 00:49:57,839
helping miss james gilead with events

1239
00:50:03,829 --> 00:49:59,359
and

1240
00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:06,630
saying that james gillian operates from

1241
00:50:16,790 --> 00:50:10,079
survival sex and power

1242
00:50:23,030 --> 00:50:20,470
so i suppose i want to get back to these

1243
00:50:24,549 --> 00:50:23,040
light shows that

1244
00:50:26,470 --> 00:50:24,559
people get

1245
00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:26,480
when they pay some money to go to an

1246
00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:31,990
you know

1247
00:50:36,549 --> 00:50:34,640
i kept thinking that

1248
00:50:38,950 --> 00:50:36,559
maybe i should go

1249
00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:38,960
to this ranch and maybe i should

1250
00:50:44,150 --> 00:50:41,440
investigate these lights

1251
00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:44,160
because i'm pretty sure that i would not

1252
00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:47,200
be fooled by uh somebody with a strobe

1253
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:49,200
light climbing a mountain off in the

1254
00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:52,400
distance or by a satellite i mean i

1255
00:50:57,270 --> 00:50:54,240
you can get satellite tracking

1256
00:50:59,109 --> 00:50:57,280
information and find out exactly where

1257
00:51:00,309 --> 00:50:59,119
satellites are

1258
00:51:03,510 --> 00:51:00,319
above you

1259
00:51:05,589 --> 00:51:03,520
you can get the orbit

1260
00:51:07,190 --> 00:51:05,599
schedule of the international space

1261
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:07,200
station

1262
00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:08,160
and

1263
00:51:14,549 --> 00:51:10,720
it's very it would be very easy for

1264
00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:18,230
to go there look at these so-called

1265
00:51:22,950 --> 00:51:20,160
flying saucers or

1266
00:51:24,309 --> 00:51:22,960
extra dimensional spaceships extra

1267
00:51:26,950 --> 00:51:24,319
terrestrial

1268
00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:26,960
whatever you want to call them

1269
00:51:33,270 --> 00:51:30,480
it would be very easy for someone who is

1270
00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:33,280
a real truth seeker someone who is a

1271
00:51:36,790 --> 00:51:34,800
critical thinker

1272
00:51:39,670 --> 00:51:36,800
someone who actually

1273
00:51:43,109 --> 00:51:39,680
you know has the skills to investigate

1274
00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:43,119
this so-called phenomenon and say if it

1275
00:51:47,190 --> 00:51:45,839
can be explained or not

1276
00:51:48,710 --> 00:51:47,200
so

1277
00:51:52,230 --> 00:51:48,720
i have to say

1278
00:51:54,790 --> 00:51:52,240
that i heard that one cliff high was

1279
00:51:57,430 --> 00:51:54,800
going to east seti ranch

1280
00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:57,440
and uh i should mention that cliff high

1281
00:52:01,349 --> 00:51:58,960
has been

1282
00:52:05,990 --> 00:52:01,359
more than a little critical of james

1283
00:52:08,790 --> 00:52:06,000
gillian and his claims of extra

1284
00:52:10,630 --> 00:52:08,800
dimensional extraterrestrial visitation

1285
00:52:12,790 --> 00:52:10,640
and contact

1286
00:52:16,069 --> 00:52:12,800
i have not heard a lot of specifics but

1287
00:52:18,150 --> 00:52:16,079
i just know uh from his reputation and

1288
00:52:19,270 --> 00:52:18,160
from what he himself has said that he

1289
00:52:20,870 --> 00:52:19,280
has been

1290
00:52:25,190 --> 00:52:20,880
more than critical

1291
00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:25,200
of james gillian and his claims

1292
00:52:28,549 --> 00:52:26,240
but

1293
00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:28,559
uh cliff high to his credit said you

1294
00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:31,599
know what i want to keep an open mind

1295
00:52:36,790 --> 00:52:34,559
so i'm going to go there and i'm going

1296
00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:36,800
to meet up with some friends

1297
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:39,440
who are also visiting there at the same

1298
00:52:42,790 --> 00:52:40,800
time

1299
00:52:45,589 --> 00:52:42,800
and i'm going to

1300
00:52:47,670 --> 00:52:45,599
have these experiences for myself and if

1301
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:47,680
i am wrong

1302
00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:50,480
i will be the first to come out and say

1303
00:52:54,069 --> 00:52:52,880
i am wrong

1304
00:52:55,990 --> 00:52:54,079
uh

1305
00:52:58,309 --> 00:52:56,000
and and i think that's really to his

1306
00:53:01,589 --> 00:52:58,319
credit he's willing to change his mind

1307
00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:01,599
he's willing to once he experiences this

1308
00:53:05,190 --> 00:53:03,599
so-called paranormal phenomenon

1309
00:53:07,829 --> 00:53:05,200
happening around

1310
00:53:10,069 --> 00:53:07,839
or above this ranch

1311
00:53:12,549 --> 00:53:10,079
uh he you know learned to be the bigger

1312
00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:12,559
man and say hey i was wrong this is

1313
00:53:16,069 --> 00:53:14,640
genuine paranormal phenomenon that's

1314
00:53:18,470 --> 00:53:16,079
going on here

1315
00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:18,480
if it was

1316
00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:19,920
so i gotta say

1317
00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:22,240
i i know uh

1318
00:53:26,950 --> 00:53:24,240
more than just me i know

1319
00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:26,960
several people who were excited to hear

1320
00:53:30,390 --> 00:53:28,400
that cliff high

1321
00:53:31,589 --> 00:53:30,400
was going to go to the ranch and look

1322
00:53:33,510 --> 00:53:31,599
into this

1323
00:53:35,910 --> 00:53:33,520
these claims and the so-called

1324
00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:35,920
paranormal phenomenon

1325
00:53:39,990 --> 00:53:38,160
and he was going to bring

1326
00:53:41,109 --> 00:53:40,000
the community

1327
00:53:43,990 --> 00:53:41,119
back

1328
00:53:47,910 --> 00:53:44,000
the information that he failed

1329
00:53:50,390 --> 00:53:47,920
so i for one was delighted i could not

1330
00:53:51,829 --> 00:53:50,400
wait to hear what he did

1331
00:53:54,790 --> 00:53:51,839
what he saw

1332
00:53:59,270 --> 00:53:54,800
what he you know researched into what he

1333
00:54:02,230 --> 00:53:59,280
saw and what his conclusions about what

1334
00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:02,240
he saw were going to be

1335
00:54:05,910 --> 00:54:04,319
now i have to say that

1336
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:05,920
i had

1337
00:54:13,510 --> 00:54:08,880
made a prediction of my own

1338
00:54:14,950 --> 00:54:13,520
and that prediction was going to be that

1339
00:54:17,349 --> 00:54:14,960
suddenly

1340
00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:17,359
with a critical thinking

1341
00:54:21,510 --> 00:54:19,440
person with a brain that's just not

1342
00:54:22,790 --> 00:54:21,520
going to believe anything james gilead

1343
00:54:24,790 --> 00:54:22,800
says

1344
00:54:26,950 --> 00:54:24,800
about what's up in the sky

1345
00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:26,960
with someone like cliff high there i

1346
00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:28,240
predicted

1347
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:30,319
that there would be a lull in the

1348
00:54:35,670 --> 00:54:32,800
paranormal activity and

1349
00:54:38,630 --> 00:54:35,680
maybe uh you know the rift between the

1350
00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:38,640
dimensions was too thin at the moment

1351
00:54:42,309 --> 00:54:41,040
and so sorry folks nothing happened

1352
00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:42,319
tonight

1353
00:54:46,870 --> 00:54:44,960
i predicted that there would be

1354
00:54:48,150 --> 00:54:46,880
some explanation

1355
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:48,160
you know

1356
00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:50,160
i don't know

1357
00:54:55,510 --> 00:54:53,040
i just thought that they would be too

1358
00:54:56,549 --> 00:54:55,520
scared to pull any trickery

1359
00:55:00,390 --> 00:54:56,559
or

1360
00:55:03,589 --> 00:55:00,400
uh fairy tale nonsense

1361
00:55:05,829 --> 00:55:03,599
with someone like cliff high there

1362
00:55:09,430 --> 00:55:05,839
i thought that cliff high would scare

1363
00:55:11,750 --> 00:55:09,440
them into being too afraid to do things

1364
00:55:14,549 --> 00:55:11,760
like have someone flashing headlights

1365
00:55:16,390 --> 00:55:14,559
off in a mountain in the distance or

1366
00:55:19,190 --> 00:55:16,400
strobe lights or

1367
00:55:21,270 --> 00:55:19,200
using natural occurrences like

1368
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:21,280
satellites and saying hey look there's

1369
00:55:24,549 --> 00:55:23,040
an extraterrestrial space

1370
00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:24,559
i thought that what they were going to

1371
00:55:28,870 --> 00:55:26,640
do is have sort of a blackout of the

1372
00:55:31,109 --> 00:55:28,880
para normal phenomenon while he was

1373
00:55:34,230 --> 00:55:31,119
there and just explained to the guests

1374
00:55:36,230 --> 00:55:34,240
make up some excuses or some nonsense

1375
00:55:38,710 --> 00:55:36,240
for why they didn't see anything why

1376
00:55:40,390 --> 00:55:38,720
nothing was going on

1377
00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:40,400
you know

1378
00:55:44,390 --> 00:55:42,720
good con man that i think he is i think

1379
00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:44,400
james gillian would have come up with

1380
00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:46,480
some explanation

1381
00:55:51,109 --> 00:55:49,200
for a lack of activity or he would have

1382
00:55:53,109 --> 00:55:51,119
just explained you know sometimes we go

1383
00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:53,119
three or four days and we don't see very

1384
00:55:56,710 --> 00:55:54,880
much phenomena but then it then the

1385
00:55:58,549 --> 00:55:56,720
activity picks up or

1386
00:56:00,069 --> 00:55:58,559
something

1387
00:56:02,390 --> 00:56:00,079
so i predicted

1388
00:56:04,390 --> 00:56:02,400
that they would be too afraid

1389
00:56:05,589 --> 00:56:04,400
and cowardly to pull trickery or

1390
00:56:07,190 --> 00:56:05,599
nonsense

1391
00:56:09,430 --> 00:56:07,200
i also have to explain that there has

1392
00:56:11,270 --> 00:56:09,440
been various reports of people being

1393
00:56:13,190 --> 00:56:11,280
asked to volunteer to run off in the

1394
00:56:15,270 --> 00:56:13,200
mountains and shine flashlights and

1395
00:56:17,109 --> 00:56:15,280
stuff and all kinds of things like

1396
00:56:19,750 --> 00:56:17,119
trickery

1397
00:56:22,390 --> 00:56:19,760
that is being used and employed

1398
00:56:26,069 --> 00:56:22,400
to create the so-called paranormal

1399
00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:26,079
phenomenon i have gotten various emails

1400
00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:27,440
and messages

1401
00:56:30,630 --> 00:56:28,240
from

1402
00:56:33,430 --> 00:56:30,640
people claiming exactly that that they

1403
00:56:36,309 --> 00:56:33,440
were asked to take part in some form of

1404
00:56:38,549 --> 00:56:36,319
trickery to produce these phenomenon

1405
00:56:42,230 --> 00:56:38,559
while at the ranch

1406
00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:42,240
while volunteering at the ranch or

1407
00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:45,200
you know something similar to that some

1408
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:46,960
story that they were asked to do

1409
00:56:52,950 --> 00:56:49,920
something to generate these so-called

1410
00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:52,960
phenomenon through trickery and

1411
00:56:57,349 --> 00:56:54,720
deceitful means

1412
00:56:59,670 --> 00:56:57,359
and this my friends is the story that

1413
00:57:02,549 --> 00:56:59,680
you get from many people who were

1414
00:57:04,150 --> 00:57:02,559
insiders at this place

1415
00:57:06,710 --> 00:57:04,160
well my friends i can see that we're

1416
00:57:09,030 --> 00:57:06,720
coming up on our first hour we're almost

1417
00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:09,040
halfway through our journey now is a

1418
00:57:19,510 --> 00:57:11,680
good time for us to take a break i'll be

1419
00:57:24,069 --> 00:57:22,789
welcome back my friends i'm glad to be

1420
00:57:26,470 --> 00:57:24,079
back with you

1421
00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:26,480
before the break we were discussing the

1422
00:57:31,349 --> 00:57:29,040
trickery that happens at this so-called

1423
00:57:33,109 --> 00:57:31,359
paranormal ranch

1424
00:57:36,630 --> 00:57:33,119
but i have to tell you

1425
00:57:38,789 --> 00:57:36,640
it is not just me that has found

1426
00:57:40,549 --> 00:57:38,799
a great deal of trickery

1427
00:57:43,510 --> 00:57:40,559
is reportedly involved with the

1428
00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:43,520
so-called paranormal effects

1429
00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:51,030
several other people

1430
00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:51,839
have

1431
00:57:55,750 --> 00:57:53,200
found

1432
00:57:58,309 --> 00:57:55,760
credible sourcing that would indicate

1433
00:57:59,910 --> 00:57:58,319
that trickery and deception is being

1434
00:58:02,549 --> 00:57:59,920
used

1435
00:58:04,549 --> 00:58:02,559
as well as the false reporting of

1436
00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:04,559
natural events

1437
00:58:07,750 --> 00:58:06,160
to

1438
00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:07,760
make it appear

1439
00:58:14,230 --> 00:58:10,319
that paranormal events are happening in

1440
00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:16,069
most importantly

1441
00:58:19,109 --> 00:58:17,200
the person

1442
00:58:21,430 --> 00:58:19,119
that they banned from attending their

1443
00:58:26,950 --> 00:58:21,440
events there cliff high

1444
00:58:30,710 --> 00:58:28,549
and i have to tell you

1445
00:58:33,030 --> 00:58:30,720
banning someone who says

1446
00:58:35,349 --> 00:58:33,040
that you're doing magic tricks

1447
00:58:38,230 --> 00:58:35,359
and selling it to people as genuine

1448
00:58:43,750 --> 00:58:38,240
paranormal events

1449
00:58:46,789 --> 00:58:45,829
cliff i has gotten

1450
00:58:52,710 --> 00:58:46,799
uh

1451
00:58:55,270 --> 00:58:52,720
and

1452
00:58:57,270 --> 00:58:55,280
you know i gotta say so

1453
00:59:00,150 --> 00:58:57,280
i was excited that cliff high was gonna

1454
00:59:02,150 --> 00:59:00,160
go there i was excited that cliff high

1455
00:59:04,150 --> 00:59:02,160
uh was gonna look into these things

1456
00:59:07,270 --> 00:59:04,160
because i knew that cliff is not just

1457
00:59:10,230 --> 00:59:07,280
going to see as you know a star or a

1458
00:59:12,470 --> 00:59:10,240
meteor and say oh yeah i saw a spaceship

1459
00:59:14,309 --> 00:59:12,480
you know he's a little more level-headed

1460
00:59:15,829 --> 00:59:14,319
he's a little more of a critical thinker

1461
00:59:18,870 --> 00:59:15,839
he's somebody that

1462
00:59:20,789 --> 00:59:18,880
requires proof of claims he doesn't just

1463
00:59:23,030 --> 00:59:20,799
blindly believe this like some people

1464
00:59:25,270 --> 00:59:23,040
would so i was excited i thought this is

1465
00:59:26,710 --> 00:59:25,280
going to be great but then i thought

1466
00:59:28,470 --> 00:59:26,720
they're never going to pull this kind of

1467
00:59:29,750 --> 00:59:28,480
trickery nonsense in front of somebody

1468
00:59:30,870 --> 00:59:29,760
like cliff hi they're just not going to

1469
00:59:32,710 --> 00:59:30,880
do it they're going to be afraid of

1470
00:59:35,030 --> 00:59:32,720
getting caught so they're going to have

1471
00:59:37,510 --> 00:59:35,040
a low on activity or some explanation

1472
00:59:39,349 --> 00:59:37,520
for why nothing absolutely nothing would

1473
00:59:42,549 --> 00:59:39,359
happen the entire time that cliff i was

1474
00:59:44,549 --> 00:59:42,559
there watching for it

1475
00:59:46,630 --> 00:59:44,559
but then

1476
00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:46,640
something very very even more

1477
00:59:51,430 --> 00:59:48,720
interesting happened

1478
00:59:54,789 --> 00:59:51,440
and that is that cliff high was sent a

1479
00:59:58,390 --> 00:59:54,799
message that he was banned and

1480
00:59:59,510 --> 00:59:58,400
was not welcome to come to this public

1481
01:00:01,670 --> 00:59:59,520
event

1482
01:00:03,829 --> 01:00:01,680
at this ranch

1483
01:00:06,150 --> 01:00:03,839
which i find quite troubling

1484
01:00:08,150 --> 01:00:06,160
uh if this person is

1485
01:00:10,549 --> 01:00:08,160
running a public event

1486
01:00:12,950 --> 01:00:10,559
he cannot discriminate

1487
01:00:16,549 --> 01:00:12,960
because somebody is in the past been

1488
01:00:19,270 --> 01:00:16,559
critical of this of his claims

1489
01:00:21,270 --> 01:00:19,280
and i have to say

1490
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:21,280
regardless of

1491
01:00:31,109 --> 01:00:27,430
bs reason that they gave to cliff high

1492
01:00:34,230 --> 01:00:31,119
for not being allowed to attend a public

1493
01:00:35,910 --> 01:00:34,240
event at their facility there

1494
01:00:38,950 --> 01:00:35,920
and by the way anybody else from the

1495
01:00:41,589 --> 01:00:38,960
public is welcome to go it's just

1496
01:00:43,030 --> 01:00:41,599
since cliff high has been critical of

1497
01:00:44,789 --> 01:00:43,040
some of the speakers that were going to

1498
01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:44,799
be at the conference and

1499
01:00:48,789 --> 01:00:46,720
has been critical of the so-called

1500
01:00:51,750 --> 01:00:48,799
paranormal phenomenon happening at this

1501
01:00:53,990 --> 01:00:51,760
ranch and james gillian he was told he

1502
01:00:57,750 --> 01:00:54,000
was not welcome don't come you're not

1503
01:00:59,990 --> 01:00:57,760
allowed to be here and i gotta say that

1504
01:01:03,190 --> 01:01:00,000
is one of the most cowardly things that

1505
01:01:04,950 --> 01:01:03,200
i have seen some any of these cosmic con

1506
01:01:06,390 --> 01:01:04,960
men do so far

1507
01:01:08,789 --> 01:01:06,400
and

1508
01:01:11,670 --> 01:01:08,799
it's it's much like david wilcock who

1509
01:01:13,670 --> 01:01:11,680
will routinely absolutely positively go

1510
01:01:15,750 --> 01:01:13,680
to a conference organizer and say i will

1511
01:01:17,670 --> 01:01:15,760
not speak if this person this person and

1512
01:01:19,670 --> 01:01:17,680
this person are in the room you have to

1513
01:01:21,670 --> 01:01:19,680
remove them or i'm not going on stage

1514
01:01:24,069 --> 01:01:21,680
i'm not giving my talk with them

1515
01:01:26,390 --> 01:01:24,079
and they're going to be disruptive or

1516
01:01:28,710 --> 01:01:26,400
you know whatever excuse david will he

1517
01:01:31,349 --> 01:01:28,720
literally gets people ejected from the

1518
01:01:33,270 --> 01:01:31,359
room before he speaks because he's such

1519
01:01:35,750 --> 01:01:33,280
a coward

1520
01:01:38,549 --> 01:01:35,760
and much like david wilcock now we have

1521
01:01:41,589 --> 01:01:38,559
this other cosmic con man coward

1522
01:01:44,390 --> 01:01:41,599
james gillian who says

1523
01:01:46,309 --> 01:01:44,400
we can't have a critical thinking

1524
01:01:48,549 --> 01:01:46,319
truth-seeking person who's going to

1525
01:01:50,230 --> 01:01:48,559
require some evidence of our so-called

1526
01:01:52,710 --> 01:01:50,240
paranormal phenomenon that we're going

1527
01:01:54,630 --> 01:01:52,720
to present to our guests here he's not

1528
01:01:56,710 --> 01:01:54,640
welcome don't come you're banned you're

1529
01:01:57,510 --> 01:01:56,720
not allowed here

1530
01:02:03,670 --> 01:01:57,520
it's

1531
01:02:06,789 --> 01:02:03,680
to me that they would be that cowardly

1532
01:02:08,789 --> 01:02:06,799
it's also quite possibly illegal

1533
01:02:09,829 --> 01:02:08,799
that they would

1534
01:02:12,150 --> 01:02:09,839
tell

1535
01:02:14,549 --> 01:02:12,160
anybody that they're not allowed to

1536
01:02:16,069 --> 01:02:14,559
attend what is essentially a public

1537
01:02:18,069 --> 01:02:16,079
event

1538
01:02:21,029 --> 01:02:18,079
now i gotta say that they

1539
01:02:23,029 --> 01:02:21,039
posted some kind of a bs

1540
01:02:24,549 --> 01:02:23,039
excuse or reason for this on their

1541
01:02:26,950 --> 01:02:24,559
facebook page

1542
01:02:29,109 --> 01:02:26,960
and i gotta say that as soon as i read

1543
01:02:31,430 --> 01:02:29,119
that

1544
01:02:33,109 --> 01:02:31,440
statement from them i got even more

1545
01:02:34,950 --> 01:02:33,119
concerned

1546
01:02:36,950 --> 01:02:34,960
with this being

1547
01:02:40,470 --> 01:02:36,960
really really dirty

1548
01:02:42,549 --> 01:02:40,480
unethical immoral and wrong

1549
01:02:44,470 --> 01:02:42,559
and i'm going to read you parts of that

1550
01:02:46,069 --> 01:02:44,480
statement right now

1551
01:02:48,309 --> 01:02:46,079
and you know i think it's important to

1552
01:02:50,789 --> 01:02:48,319
realize that in this statement he claims

1553
01:02:54,630 --> 01:02:50,799
that the events at his

1554
01:02:58,150 --> 01:02:54,640
ranch are private and by invitation only

1555
01:03:00,390 --> 01:02:58,160
but you can go on his website and

1556
01:03:03,910 --> 01:03:00,400
buy tickets but he does have

1557
01:03:05,990 --> 01:03:03,920
buy tickets get private invitation

1558
01:03:06,789 --> 01:03:06,000
and before i read parts of the statement

1559
01:03:09,190 --> 01:03:06,799
uh

1560
01:03:11,349 --> 01:03:09,200
i just want to read a few things

1561
01:03:14,789 --> 01:03:11,359
uh this is for camping and skywatch

1562
01:03:20,630 --> 01:03:14,799
weekends on thursday july 11

1563
01:03:25,190 --> 01:03:21,750
uh

1564
01:03:28,390 --> 01:03:25,200
and and this is for camping camping is a

1565
01:03:32,150 --> 01:03:28,400
minimum suggested donation of 35 per

1566
01:03:34,390 --> 01:03:32,160
night per rv van tent camp

1567
01:03:36,789 --> 01:03:34,400
site up to three guests per group there

1568
01:03:39,270 --> 01:03:36,799
are no hook-ups or electricity for rvs

1569
01:03:41,029 --> 01:03:39,280
additional guests per ten ten dollars

1570
01:03:42,870 --> 01:03:41,039
each additional tents per group thirty

1571
01:03:44,789 --> 01:03:42,880
five dollars each please bring your own

1572
01:03:46,309 --> 01:03:44,799
ten sleeping bags linens pillows and

1573
01:03:48,950 --> 01:03:46,319
towels please check weather forecast

1574
01:03:51,029 --> 01:03:48,960
prior to visit to ensure you're prepared

1575
01:03:53,109 --> 01:03:51,039
and there's a cancellation fee for

1576
01:03:54,630 --> 01:03:53,119
canceling your reservation

1577
01:03:56,390 --> 01:03:54,640
so this is something that i think is

1578
01:03:57,190 --> 01:03:56,400
funny is

1579
01:03:59,029 --> 01:03:57,200
uh

1580
01:04:00,230 --> 01:03:59,039
they're supposed to be a non-profit

1581
01:04:02,069 --> 01:04:00,240
organization

1582
01:04:05,270 --> 01:04:02,079
but he's setting that the minimum

1583
01:04:07,829 --> 01:04:05,280
suggested donation is 35 per night

1584
01:04:09,829 --> 01:04:07,839
i'm not sure how legal that is uh if

1585
01:04:11,829 --> 01:04:09,839
you're saying that you're a non-profit

1586
01:04:13,990 --> 01:04:11,839
and then you're telling people or

1587
01:04:16,309 --> 01:04:14,000
dictating people

1588
01:04:17,109 --> 01:04:16,319
this is the suggested donation

1589
01:04:18,230 --> 01:04:17,119
but

1590
01:04:19,670 --> 01:04:18,240
you know that's kind of like the

1591
01:04:21,750 --> 01:04:19,680
catholic church where they give you

1592
01:04:23,589 --> 01:04:21,760
church envelopes in the minimum

1593
01:04:26,230 --> 01:04:23,599
you know they they put on there and

1594
01:04:27,589 --> 01:04:26,240
there's check boxes like 20

1595
01:04:29,270 --> 01:04:27,599
50

1596
01:04:31,109 --> 01:04:29,280
i mean

1597
01:04:32,870 --> 01:04:31,119
i don't i don't understand that either

1598
01:04:35,589 --> 01:04:32,880
with the catholic church like maybe you

1599
01:04:37,670 --> 01:04:35,599
just have five dollars to donate that

1600
01:04:40,230 --> 01:04:37,680
week you don't have the 20 that the

1601
01:04:42,870 --> 01:04:40,240
minimum on the envelope is but this is

1602
01:04:46,309 --> 01:04:42,880
the kind of con games that this james

1603
01:04:50,150 --> 01:04:46,319
gillian is involved in

1604
01:04:52,470 --> 01:04:50,160
minimum suggested donation 35 per night

1605
01:04:55,029 --> 01:04:52,480
and i have to say

1606
01:04:56,950 --> 01:04:55,039
i have not tried to actually buy tickets

1607
01:05:00,150 --> 01:04:56,960
or get a private invitation but i know

1608
01:05:02,150 --> 01:05:00,160
people who have and uh

1609
01:05:03,750 --> 01:05:02,160
you know as long as they don't really

1610
01:05:05,750 --> 01:05:03,760
know who you are

1611
01:05:08,069 --> 01:05:05,760
then you just buy your tickets and you

1612
01:05:09,510 --> 01:05:08,079
get your reservation you pay a deposit

1613
01:05:11,910 --> 01:05:09,520
or whatever the case may be and you're

1614
01:05:16,069 --> 01:05:11,920
allowed to go and attend the event there

1615
01:05:16,950 --> 01:05:16,079
but somehow cliff high is not allowed

1616
01:05:18,549 --> 01:05:16,960
to

1617
01:05:20,630 --> 01:05:18,559
provide

1618
01:05:22,549 --> 01:05:20,640
he is not allowed to attend because

1619
01:05:24,470 --> 01:05:22,559
they're saying that these are not public

1620
01:05:26,069 --> 01:05:24,480
events these are private

1621
01:05:27,829 --> 01:05:26,079
events

1622
01:05:29,750 --> 01:05:27,839
but then there's other things like

1623
01:05:31,190 --> 01:05:29,760
camping in skywatch

1624
01:05:33,430 --> 01:05:31,200
weekend

1625
01:05:34,630 --> 01:05:33,440
let's see in august it just says buy

1626
01:05:38,789 --> 01:05:34,640
tickets

1627
01:05:41,270 --> 01:05:38,799
there's no slash get private invitation

1628
01:05:44,309 --> 01:05:41,280
which is strange to me and here we have

1629
01:05:46,390 --> 01:05:44,319
a yoga art music gathering weekend

1630
01:05:54,630 --> 01:05:46,400
and a couple more camping and skywatch

1631
01:05:58,150 --> 01:05:56,470
i i don't i don't understand how you can

1632
01:06:01,109 --> 01:05:58,160
say it's a private

1633
01:06:03,589 --> 01:06:01,119
it's a private event

1634
01:06:05,990 --> 01:06:03,599
or uh that this is a

1635
01:06:08,430 --> 01:06:06,000
non-profit but you're setting prices

1636
01:06:12,470 --> 01:06:08,440
like uh this yoga week

1637
01:06:13,270 --> 01:06:12,480
444 dollars for a full week of yoga

1638
01:06:16,470 --> 01:06:13,280
uh

1639
01:06:19,190 --> 01:06:16,480
or 225 for four days of painting does

1640
01:06:21,670 --> 01:06:19,200
this sound like a non-profit

1641
01:06:25,029 --> 01:06:21,680
organization to you that is telling you

1642
01:06:27,270 --> 01:06:25,039
exactly what it costs to attend

1643
01:06:28,630 --> 01:06:27,280
their events

1644
01:06:31,270 --> 01:06:28,640
this is not

1645
01:06:33,750 --> 01:06:31,280
he says in another statement that all

1646
01:06:35,750 --> 01:06:33,760
funds generated are by

1647
01:06:38,470 --> 01:06:35,760
donation only

1648
01:06:40,710 --> 01:06:38,480
but there's no talk here on this yoga

1649
01:06:42,870 --> 01:06:40,720
weekend that this is a donation it costs

1650
01:06:45,190 --> 01:06:42,880
444 dollars

1651
01:06:47,270 --> 01:06:45,200
that my friends is not a donation that

1652
01:06:49,670 --> 01:06:47,280
is a business this is not

1653
01:06:50,870 --> 01:06:49,680
this is not looking like a non-profit

1654
01:06:52,230 --> 01:06:50,880
organization

1655
01:06:54,470 --> 01:06:52,240
running an event

1656
01:06:55,750 --> 01:06:54,480
this is looking like a business

1657
01:06:58,630 --> 01:06:55,760
you know

1658
01:07:02,950 --> 01:06:58,640
there are things like churches who might

1659
01:07:07,109 --> 01:07:05,430
a dance night for the local teenagers

1660
01:07:09,270 --> 01:07:07,119
and they charge like

1661
01:07:11,349 --> 01:07:09,280
five dollars or whatever but

1662
01:07:15,349 --> 01:07:11,359
i don't think there's

1663
01:07:17,589 --> 01:07:15,359
that nominal fee that they're asking is

1664
01:07:19,190 --> 01:07:17,599
just to throw a couple of bucks towards

1665
01:07:21,750 --> 01:07:19,200
the church and

1666
01:07:23,510 --> 01:07:21,760
you know i'm sure the dj is going to

1667
01:07:25,430 --> 01:07:23,520
cost them more

1668
01:07:27,109 --> 01:07:25,440
the dj and the food and all that kind of

1669
01:07:29,190 --> 01:07:27,119
stuff and the heat or whatever the

1670
01:07:31,190 --> 01:07:29,200
electricity it's going to cost them more

1671
01:07:34,390 --> 01:07:31,200
than the five dollars and that they're

1672
01:07:36,470 --> 01:07:34,400
charging the guests to go there

1673
01:07:38,710 --> 01:07:36,480
but charging hundreds and hundreds of

1674
01:07:42,150 --> 01:07:38,720
dollars to attend an event and saying

1675
01:07:42,870 --> 01:07:42,160
well this is a non-profit organization

1676
01:07:46,549 --> 01:07:42,880
i

1677
01:07:47,750 --> 01:07:46,559
least

1678
01:07:49,829 --> 01:07:47,760
but

1679
01:07:53,029 --> 01:07:49,839
let's get back to

1680
01:07:56,789 --> 01:07:53,039
cliff high being banned from being

1681
01:07:59,029 --> 01:07:56,799
allowed to attend an event there

1682
01:08:01,829 --> 01:07:59,039
it says and this is from their e seti

1683
01:08:04,069 --> 01:08:01,839
ranch facebook page it says cliff high

1684
01:08:08,230 --> 01:08:04,079
and his follower i think they meant

1685
01:08:11,670 --> 01:08:09,109
then

1686
01:08:14,150 --> 01:08:11,680
due to ongoing public slander of james

1687
01:08:15,910 --> 01:08:14,160
gillian e seti and harassment of some of

1688
01:08:17,910 --> 01:08:15,920
our speakers along with the opening

1689
01:08:20,470 --> 01:08:17,920
mission of how cliff prides himself on

1690
01:08:22,070 --> 01:08:20,480
being a provocateur troublemaker in

1691
01:08:24,149 --> 01:08:22,080
addition to his constant threats

1692
01:08:26,709 --> 01:08:24,159
inviting people to sue isetti on the

1693
01:08:28,309 --> 01:08:26,719
basis of slanderous assumptions

1694
01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:28,319
and let's not mention threats using

1695
01:08:31,269 --> 01:08:30,000
legal codes having nothing to do with

1696
01:08:33,829 --> 01:08:31,279
ece

1697
01:08:36,550 --> 01:08:33,839
a private ranch upon which a private

1698
01:08:39,510 --> 01:08:36,560
event is happening by invitation only we

1699
01:08:42,390 --> 01:08:39,520
have chosen not to allow cliff to attend

1700
01:08:45,110 --> 01:08:42,400
the e-city conference

1701
01:08:46,789 --> 01:08:45,120
i i'm sorry folks it's not a private

1702
01:08:49,189 --> 01:08:46,799
ranch if you're saying that you're a

1703
01:08:52,149 --> 01:08:49,199
non-profit organization

1704
01:08:55,030 --> 01:08:52,159
and it's not a private event if anybody

1705
01:08:57,669 --> 01:08:55,040
other than anybody other than cliff high

1706
01:09:00,070 --> 01:08:57,679
is allowed to attend now i have quite a

1707
01:09:02,309 --> 01:09:00,080
feeling that after this broadcast i will

1708
01:09:04,789 --> 01:09:02,319
be also equally

1709
01:09:06,709 --> 01:09:04,799
banned or not allowed to attend events

1710
01:09:09,349 --> 01:09:06,719
there at east ceti

1711
01:09:11,189 --> 01:09:09,359
and we're going to test that theory

1712
01:09:12,709 --> 01:09:11,199
because after this broadcast i'm going

1713
01:09:15,749 --> 01:09:12,719
to send this

1714
01:09:19,510 --> 01:09:15,759
broadcast to one james gillian and then

1715
01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:19,520
i'm going to try to book

1716
01:09:24,229 --> 01:09:22,080
myself into an event there so that i can

1717
01:09:26,709 --> 01:09:24,239
investigate since they won't allow cliff

1718
01:09:29,510 --> 01:09:26,719
high to investigate their paranormal

1719
01:09:31,669 --> 01:09:29,520
claims i'm going to attempt to do that

1720
01:09:34,070 --> 01:09:31,679
but after this broadcast

1721
01:09:35,269 --> 01:09:34,080
and we're going to test the theory is it

1722
01:09:36,630 --> 01:09:35,279
really

1723
01:09:38,550 --> 01:09:36,640
all these things they're saying about

1724
01:09:40,630 --> 01:09:38,560
cliff or is it just they're cowards and

1725
01:09:41,910 --> 01:09:40,640
they can't have critical thinking people

1726
01:09:43,910 --> 01:09:41,920
that are going to investigate their

1727
01:09:45,829 --> 01:09:43,920
paranormal claims

1728
01:09:48,470 --> 01:09:45,839
and ruin their scam

1729
01:09:50,149 --> 01:09:48,480
attend there that's what i believe now

1730
01:09:53,349 --> 01:09:50,159
that's just speculation on my part but

1731
01:09:57,270 --> 01:09:55,189
now here he says he and some of his

1732
01:09:59,030 --> 01:09:57,280
associates and followers are security

1733
01:10:01,430 --> 01:09:59,040
risk

1734
01:10:03,270 --> 01:10:01,440
anybody that knows cliff high knows

1735
01:10:06,709 --> 01:10:03,280
there's no way that he's a security risk

1736
01:10:08,310 --> 01:10:06,719
that my friends is a fairy tale

1737
01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:08,320
so they've chosen not to allow cliff

1738
01:10:13,750 --> 01:10:11,520
high to attend the e-city conference

1739
01:10:15,110 --> 01:10:13,760
next we have they're going to say some

1740
01:10:16,950 --> 01:10:15,120
have already crashed the gate and

1741
01:10:18,630 --> 01:10:16,960
entered their property illegally and

1742
01:10:21,669 --> 01:10:18,640
were immediately escorted off the

1743
01:10:24,229 --> 01:10:21,679
property i am sure these trespasses

1744
01:10:26,550 --> 01:10:24,239
would make cliff very happy along with

1745
01:10:28,790 --> 01:10:26,560
the doxxing directly due to his acting

1746
01:10:31,189 --> 01:10:28,800
like a victim in a matter

1747
01:10:33,110 --> 01:10:31,199
he stated and continues to perpetrate a

1748
01:10:35,430 --> 01:10:33,120
matter upon which we have addressed

1749
01:10:38,070 --> 01:10:35,440
factually and professionally his sense

1750
01:10:40,790 --> 01:10:38,080
of entitlement arrogance aggression and

1751
01:10:42,470 --> 01:10:40,800
narcissism have us baffled

1752
01:10:44,310 --> 01:10:42,480
we have to ask the question after

1753
01:10:47,910 --> 01:10:44,320
slanders remarks and harassment would

1754
01:10:49,910 --> 01:10:47,920
you invite him to your ranch or home

1755
01:10:52,550 --> 01:10:49,920
why would you expect him to behave any

1756
01:10:54,950 --> 01:10:52,560
differently at the ranch his agenda in

1757
01:10:56,870 --> 01:10:54,960
coming to the ranch is obvious we are

1758
01:10:59,270 --> 01:10:56,880
merely setting boundaries choosing not

1759
01:11:01,990 --> 01:10:59,280
to participate or subject others to his

1760
01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:02,000
transgressions

1761
01:11:06,790 --> 01:11:04,560
now i have to say i haven't heard cliff

1762
01:11:09,030 --> 01:11:06,800
high make any slanderous remarks i

1763
01:11:11,030 --> 01:11:09,040
haven't heard him uh

1764
01:11:13,830 --> 01:11:11,040
tell people to sue he said he i haven't

1765
01:11:15,990 --> 01:11:13,840
heard him uh

1766
01:11:18,149 --> 01:11:16,000
you know making harassing statements

1767
01:11:21,110 --> 01:11:18,159
i've heard him being critical

1768
01:11:22,630 --> 01:11:21,120
of mr james gillian's

1769
01:11:24,470 --> 01:11:22,640
extraterrestrial

1770
01:11:27,270 --> 01:11:24,480
claims

1771
01:11:30,070 --> 01:11:27,280
i've heard him on several occasions be

1772
01:11:33,189 --> 01:11:30,080
very critical in fact of mr james

1773
01:11:35,510 --> 01:11:33,199
gillian and his claims

1774
01:11:37,270 --> 01:11:35,520
but being slanderous

1775
01:11:39,189 --> 01:11:37,280
it's not slanderous if you're

1776
01:11:41,030 --> 01:11:39,199
questioning when someone is saying they

1777
01:11:43,990 --> 01:11:41,040
have aliens flying above their ranch

1778
01:11:45,669 --> 01:11:44,000
every night it's not it's not harassment

1779
01:11:49,350 --> 01:11:45,679
to say

1780
01:11:51,990 --> 01:11:49,360
that you question the

1781
01:11:53,350 --> 01:11:52,000
claims made by one james gillian who's

1782
01:11:55,990 --> 01:11:53,360
claiming that there's an

1783
01:11:58,630 --> 01:11:56,000
extraterrestrial riff opening up above

1784
01:12:01,350 --> 01:11:58,640
his ranch and you know aliens are flying

1785
01:12:05,270 --> 01:12:01,360
out and spaceships and orbs and

1786
01:12:07,430 --> 01:12:05,280
and dimensional doorways are opening

1787
01:12:10,149 --> 01:12:07,440
folks it's not slanderous to question

1788
01:12:12,950 --> 01:12:10,159
those claims it's not harassment to

1789
01:12:14,709 --> 01:12:12,960
question those claims and here we have a

1790
01:12:16,630 --> 01:12:14,719
statement which is

1791
01:12:18,870 --> 01:12:16,640
direct from the playbook of david

1792
01:12:20,950 --> 01:12:18,880
wilcock and corey good

1793
01:12:22,790 --> 01:12:20,960
which is if people are critical of you

1794
01:12:23,510 --> 01:12:22,800
claim they're slandering and harassing

1795
01:12:29,189 --> 01:12:23,520
you

1796
01:12:31,510 --> 01:12:29,199
this is ridiculous

1797
01:12:33,510 --> 01:12:31,520
okay they go on to say his constant

1798
01:12:34,709 --> 01:12:33,520
slander and harassment have been well

1799
01:12:36,790 --> 01:12:34,719
documented

1800
01:12:38,709 --> 01:12:36,800
they have no foundation in truth or

1801
01:12:40,790 --> 01:12:38,719
merit again we are worried about his

1802
01:12:42,790 --> 01:12:40,800
mental stability posing a threat to the

1803
01:12:45,189 --> 01:12:42,800
peace and tranquility of the sanctuary

1804
01:12:47,189 --> 01:12:45,199
along with guests and harassment of our

1805
01:12:49,510 --> 01:12:47,199
speakers

1806
01:12:51,590 --> 01:12:49,520
and again cliff high has been very

1807
01:12:54,790 --> 01:12:51,600
critical of several speakers

1808
01:12:57,430 --> 01:12:54,800
especially probably most probably

1809
01:13:00,229 --> 01:12:57,440
they're talking about one corey good yes

1810
01:13:02,870 --> 01:13:00,239
cliff high has been very critical of

1811
01:13:05,350 --> 01:13:02,880
corey goode and his ridiculous

1812
01:13:07,189 --> 01:13:05,360
science fiction buck rogers fantasies

1813
01:13:08,229 --> 01:13:07,199
that he says he goes off into space and

1814
01:13:09,590 --> 01:13:08,239
have

1815
01:13:11,910 --> 01:13:09,600
and has

1816
01:13:14,470 --> 01:13:11,920
but i believe that cliff i has the right

1817
01:13:16,950 --> 01:13:14,480
to be critical of those claims

1818
01:13:19,110 --> 01:13:16,960
to ask for a good for proof

1819
01:13:22,310 --> 01:13:19,120
of his ridiculous claims

1820
01:13:24,870 --> 01:13:22,320
and that's not harassment that's not

1821
01:13:26,709 --> 01:13:24,880
slander that's not cyber stalking

1822
01:13:30,149 --> 01:13:26,719
someone that's

1823
01:13:31,189 --> 01:13:30,159
basically calling a liar a liar

1824
01:13:33,030 --> 01:13:31,199
and these

1825
01:13:34,550 --> 01:13:33,040
cosmic con men

1826
01:13:36,310 --> 01:13:34,560
are basically saying that no one's

1827
01:13:39,430 --> 01:13:36,320
allowed to be critical of their fairy

1828
01:13:42,470 --> 01:13:39,440
tale stories or its slander or its

1829
01:13:44,470 --> 01:13:42,480
harassment or its cyber stalking

1830
01:13:46,870 --> 01:13:44,480
and this is the ridiculous narrative

1831
01:13:48,790 --> 01:13:46,880
coming from the side of these fakes

1832
01:13:53,030 --> 01:13:48,800
frauds and con men

1833
01:13:57,110 --> 01:13:55,350
so james gillian goes on to say we have

1834
01:13:59,189 --> 01:13:57,120
to ask ourselves are we creating heaven

1835
01:14:02,310 --> 01:13:59,199
on earth or are we pushing our own

1836
01:14:04,709 --> 01:14:02,320
unhealed agendas quiet enjoyment of the

1837
01:14:06,709 --> 01:14:04,719
land freedom of speech

1838
01:14:08,709 --> 01:14:06,719
the right to gather and practice our

1839
01:14:10,630 --> 01:14:08,719
spiritual beliefs as long as no harm

1840
01:14:14,149 --> 01:14:10,640
comes to others are constitutional and

1841
01:14:16,070 --> 01:14:14,159
divine rights and i think it's funny uh

1842
01:14:17,350 --> 01:14:16,080
they basically tell cliff high he's not

1843
01:14:19,430 --> 01:14:17,360
allowed to come because he doesn't

1844
01:14:20,950 --> 01:14:19,440
believe what they believe

1845
01:14:22,870 --> 01:14:20,960
uh but

1846
01:14:25,270 --> 01:14:22,880
they believe in the quiet enjoyment of

1847
01:14:26,950 --> 01:14:25,280
the land and freedom of speech they

1848
01:14:28,630 --> 01:14:26,960
believe in freedom of speech as long as

1849
01:14:31,110 --> 01:14:28,640
no one is speaking out against their

1850
01:14:33,430 --> 01:14:31,120
ridiculous fairy tale stories then we

1851
01:14:35,430 --> 01:14:33,440
won't allow you here to speak

1852
01:14:37,669 --> 01:14:35,440
and to be clear i don't believe that

1853
01:14:39,189 --> 01:14:37,679
cliff i would have been disruptive of

1854
01:14:41,590 --> 01:14:39,199
their event i don't believe that he

1855
01:14:43,910 --> 01:14:41,600
would have jumped on a microphone and

1856
01:14:46,310 --> 01:14:43,920
started being critical of james gillian

1857
01:14:48,870 --> 01:14:46,320
and his ridiculous claims of you know

1858
01:14:52,550 --> 01:14:48,880
aliens flying over the ranch every day

1859
01:14:55,590 --> 01:14:52,560
and spaceships i just believe that they

1860
01:14:57,750 --> 01:14:55,600
could not withstand any criticism

1861
01:14:58,870 --> 01:14:57,760
they could not withstand having a critic

1862
01:15:01,590 --> 01:14:58,880
in their

1863
01:15:03,510 --> 01:15:01,600
audience that's how weak

1864
01:15:05,910 --> 01:15:03,520
that's how weak and baseless all their

1865
01:15:08,630 --> 01:15:05,920
claims is their claims are so

1866
01:15:11,750 --> 01:15:08,640
incredibly weak they cannot withstand a

1867
01:15:14,310 --> 01:15:11,760
critic even being in the audience

1868
01:15:16,790 --> 01:15:14,320
cliff high was not requesting a speaking

1869
01:15:17,750 --> 01:15:16,800
time or you know requesting to be able

1870
01:15:20,709 --> 01:15:17,760
to

1871
01:15:22,310 --> 01:15:20,719
question the speakers or you know do

1872
01:15:23,990 --> 01:15:22,320
anything disruptive he wasn't going to

1873
01:15:25,750 --> 01:15:24,000
do anything like that he was just going

1874
01:15:27,669 --> 01:15:25,760
to sit in the audience wait for the

1875
01:15:29,750 --> 01:15:27,679
spaceships to arrive when they do the

1876
01:15:31,030 --> 01:15:29,760
sky watches and see what really happens

1877
01:15:34,149 --> 01:15:31,040
and then he was going to report it to

1878
01:15:35,430 --> 01:15:34,159
the community and that my friends

1879
01:15:37,590 --> 01:15:35,440
cliff high

1880
01:15:39,030 --> 01:15:37,600
going seeing what really happens there

1881
01:15:41,750 --> 01:15:39,040
and then coming back to the community

1882
01:15:44,790 --> 01:15:41,760
and reporting the truth of these

1883
01:15:45,990 --> 01:15:44,800
ridiculous flying saucers over the ranch

1884
01:15:48,149 --> 01:15:46,000
claims

1885
01:15:50,830 --> 01:15:48,159
portals over the ranches

1886
01:15:53,110 --> 01:15:50,840
claims orbs

1887
01:15:54,950 --> 01:15:53,120
extraterrestrial gateways portals

1888
01:15:56,709 --> 01:15:54,960
opening up

1889
01:15:59,030 --> 01:15:56,719
cliff high was going to go

1890
01:16:02,070 --> 01:15:59,040
see what he saw

1891
01:16:03,510 --> 01:16:02,080
investigate it research what he was

1892
01:16:05,910 --> 01:16:03,520
really seeing and then he was going to

1893
01:16:08,149 --> 01:16:05,920
report it to the community and that my

1894
01:16:10,390 --> 01:16:08,159
friends is something that they could not

1895
01:16:13,110 --> 01:16:10,400
allow because it would destroy their con

1896
01:16:16,950 --> 01:16:15,110
and let's see

1897
01:16:18,550 --> 01:16:16,960
we have never met cliff he has never

1898
01:16:21,510 --> 01:16:18,560
been to east setting or has he ever

1899
01:16:24,310 --> 01:16:21,520
attended any of the 33 years of healing

1900
01:16:25,510 --> 01:16:24,320
sessions ongoing workshops and classes

1901
01:16:29,750 --> 01:16:25,520
at

1902
01:16:33,189 --> 01:16:29,760
people have

1903
01:16:34,550 --> 01:16:33,199
so upon what does he form his

1904
01:16:36,870 --> 01:16:34,560
i don't even know what he's trying to

1905
01:16:37,910 --> 01:16:36,880
say here what does he form his b

1906
01:16:40,070 --> 01:16:37,920
lie

1907
01:16:42,070 --> 01:16:40,080
fs and assumptions

1908
01:16:43,830 --> 01:16:42,080
and what is motivating him

1909
01:16:45,750 --> 01:16:43,840
it is not the first time unconscious

1910
01:16:48,229 --> 01:16:45,760
people victims and seekers of fame and

1911
01:16:50,630 --> 01:16:48,239
notoriety have tried to gain it at the

1912
01:16:52,229 --> 01:16:50,640
expense of east seti nor do we expect it

1913
01:16:54,390 --> 01:16:52,239
to be the last

1914
01:16:56,149 --> 01:16:54,400
we would like to remind cliff rather

1915
01:16:58,870 --> 01:16:56,159
than boasting of being enlightened and

1916
01:17:00,950 --> 01:16:58,880
master of all enlightened beings

1917
01:17:03,110 --> 01:17:00,960
operate under universal law universal

1918
01:17:05,510 --> 01:17:03,120
peace brother sister who love individual

1919
01:17:08,070 --> 01:17:05,520
freedom and prosperity for all we might

1920
01:17:11,189 --> 01:17:08,080
want to add service to others and impact

1921
01:17:13,510 --> 01:17:11,199
impeccable integrity

1922
01:17:15,590 --> 01:17:13,520
this guy has been kind people for 33

1923
01:17:17,270 --> 01:17:15,600
years to see fake lights in the sky that

1924
01:17:18,870 --> 01:17:17,280
he claims are flying saucers

1925
01:17:20,870 --> 01:17:18,880
extraterrestrials

1926
01:17:23,350 --> 01:17:20,880
portals and

1927
01:17:26,470 --> 01:17:23,360
i don't know orbs other dimensional

1928
01:17:28,630 --> 01:17:26,480
beings and he's talking about

1929
01:17:31,910 --> 01:17:28,640
he's telling cliff that he should worry

1930
01:17:33,510 --> 01:17:31,920
about impeccable integrity

1931
01:17:36,390 --> 01:17:33,520
i don't believe that a man that hasn't

1932
01:17:37,590 --> 01:17:36,400
had a real job for 33 years that has

1933
01:17:39,910 --> 01:17:37,600
been selling

1934
01:17:41,189 --> 01:17:39,920
healing sessions with people

1935
01:17:43,510 --> 01:17:41,199
that has been

1936
01:17:46,149 --> 01:17:43,520
selling fake lights in the sky as being

1937
01:17:48,470 --> 01:17:46,159
flying saucers and extraterrestrials has

1938
01:17:52,390 --> 01:17:48,480
the right to comment on anyone else's

1939
01:17:54,630 --> 01:17:52,400
integrity but that's just my belief

1940
01:17:57,669 --> 01:17:54,640
let's see his actions have fallen far

1941
01:17:59,510 --> 01:17:57,679
short of impeccable integrity that is

1942
01:18:01,430 --> 01:17:59,520
we strongly suggest that it would be

1943
01:18:03,189 --> 01:18:01,440
wise for him to direct his energies into

1944
01:18:04,310 --> 01:18:03,199
taking care of his own health and mental

1945
01:18:06,550 --> 01:18:04,320
well-being

1946
01:18:09,350 --> 01:18:06,560
and uh they're making a real big dig in

1947
01:18:11,910 --> 01:18:09,360
him because he happens to be

1948
01:18:13,189 --> 01:18:11,920
a cancer survivor and dealing with some

1949
01:18:14,470 --> 01:18:13,199
health issues

1950
01:18:17,510 --> 01:18:14,480
lately

1951
01:18:19,590 --> 01:18:17,520
and that's a real low blow if you ask me

1952
01:18:21,669 --> 01:18:19,600
again we go back to three kinds of

1953
01:18:23,590 --> 01:18:21,679
business your business god's business

1954
01:18:25,990 --> 01:18:23,600
and other people's business other

1955
01:18:27,510 --> 01:18:26,000
people's business is god's business he

1956
01:18:28,790 --> 01:18:27,520
might want to talk with the tens of

1957
01:18:31,350 --> 01:18:28,800
thousands of people who have had

1958
01:18:33,830 --> 01:18:31,360
incredible experiences at e-city rather

1959
01:18:35,510 --> 01:18:33,840
than continue on his narrative-driven

1960
01:18:37,750 --> 01:18:35,520
agenda

1961
01:18:39,189 --> 01:18:37,760
and boy i gotta say that this is just

1962
01:18:45,030 --> 01:18:39,199
funny to me

1963
01:18:50,070 --> 01:18:46,709
i don't know it's really a lot of true

1964
01:18:57,590 --> 01:18:51,750
and they're pretty much supporting james

1965
01:19:00,950 --> 01:18:58,870
here we have somebody that says i

1966
01:19:03,110 --> 01:19:00,960
surrender james is guest in e city with

1967
01:19:06,149 --> 01:19:03,120
golden light i offer love and healing to

1968
01:19:07,590 --> 01:19:06,159
the speakers as well

1969
01:19:10,149 --> 01:19:07,600
they're offer you're offering love and

1970
01:19:12,310 --> 01:19:10,159
healing to a bunch of con men

1971
01:19:14,709 --> 01:19:12,320
look at the speakers of this thing

1972
01:19:15,990 --> 01:19:14,719
we've got corey good and we got james

1973
01:19:18,390 --> 01:19:16,000
gillian

1974
01:19:19,990 --> 01:19:18,400
speaking at this conference

1975
01:19:21,270 --> 01:19:20,000
these are the light and love workers

1976
01:19:22,950 --> 01:19:21,280
that you're surrounding with light and

1977
01:19:24,950 --> 01:19:22,960
love

1978
01:19:26,630 --> 01:19:24,960
these are cosmic con men

1979
01:19:28,390 --> 01:19:26,640
that are stealing money from people for

1980
01:19:30,390 --> 01:19:28,400
telling fairy tales or claiming that

1981
01:19:32,709 --> 01:19:30,400
lights in the sky or satellites or

1982
01:19:34,550 --> 01:19:32,719
extraterrestrial spacecraft

1983
01:19:37,270 --> 01:19:34,560
get out your checkbook we'll show you

1984
01:19:38,149 --> 01:19:37,280
some flying saucers it's ridiculous

1985
01:19:42,950 --> 01:19:38,159
folks

1986
01:19:47,910 --> 01:19:45,750
oh and then we have james corey good he

1987
01:19:49,669 --> 01:19:47,920
chimes in on this

1988
01:19:51,910 --> 01:19:49,679
he said he please call the police and

1989
01:19:53,430 --> 01:19:51,920
file a report again against those that

1990
01:19:54,870 --> 01:19:53,440
trespassed

1991
01:19:56,950 --> 01:19:54,880
we have quite a lot of evidence to

1992
01:19:58,870 --> 01:19:56,960
provide to the police at their request

1993
01:20:00,709 --> 01:19:58,880
much of my team is already there and

1994
01:20:03,430 --> 01:20:00,719
available to provide

1995
01:20:06,629 --> 01:20:03,440
he is in his own words

1996
01:20:09,430 --> 01:20:06,639
a paranoid schizophrenic and then

1997
01:20:12,070 --> 01:20:09,440
you know i have to say that corey goode

1998
01:20:13,990 --> 01:20:12,080
he posted this video busted cliff high

1999
01:20:16,070 --> 01:20:14,000
admits inventing blue chicken cult as

2000
01:20:17,669 --> 01:20:16,080
slander no he

2001
01:20:19,830 --> 01:20:17,679
he admits that he invented it to make

2002
01:20:21,590 --> 01:20:19,840
fun of them and he has the right to do

2003
01:20:25,110 --> 01:20:21,600
that

2004
01:20:27,510 --> 01:20:25,120
and i gotta say uh

2005
01:20:29,830 --> 01:20:27,520
it's it's it's disenheartening to see so

2006
01:20:32,870 --> 01:20:29,840
many true believing idiots on this guy's

2007
01:20:34,709 --> 01:20:32,880
facebook page

2008
01:20:35,910 --> 01:20:34,719
saying stuff like this like oh i'm so

2009
01:20:37,590 --> 01:20:35,920
sorry people are threatened by your

2010
01:20:40,229 --> 01:20:37,600
beautiful property and everything you

2011
01:20:40,239 --> 01:20:47,030
it's amazing to me folks

2012
01:20:50,709 --> 01:20:48,310
i don't know

2013
01:20:51,990 --> 01:20:50,719
really how they can justify

2014
01:20:54,550 --> 01:20:52,000
uh like

2015
01:20:56,070 --> 01:20:54,560
not allowing a critic of theirs if

2016
01:20:57,910 --> 01:20:56,080
they're really light in love people

2017
01:20:58,950 --> 01:20:57,920
wouldn't they be forgiving and just say

2018
01:21:00,390 --> 01:20:58,960
like hey

2019
01:21:03,189 --> 01:21:00,400
you don't believe the same things that

2020
01:21:05,110 --> 01:21:03,199
we believe but you're welcome to

2021
01:21:06,950 --> 01:21:05,120
you know listen to our speakers and as

2022
01:21:09,189 --> 01:21:06,960
long as you're respectful

2023
01:21:10,870 --> 01:21:09,199
i would at least

2024
01:21:15,430 --> 01:21:10,880
you know

2025
01:21:17,189 --> 01:21:15,440
position i would i think the better play

2026
01:21:19,430 --> 01:21:17,199
for him would have been to say like

2027
01:21:21,750 --> 01:21:19,440
listen you can you can attend you just

2028
01:21:23,990 --> 01:21:21,760
you can't be disruptive and you can't be

2029
01:21:26,149 --> 01:21:24,000
disrespectful do you agree to that and

2030
01:21:28,870 --> 01:21:26,159
if so then you're welcome because we're

2031
01:21:30,149 --> 01:21:28,880
light and loved people right we're not

2032
01:21:33,510 --> 01:21:30,159
we're not

2033
01:21:34,870 --> 01:21:33,520
trying to control the narrative and

2034
01:21:36,629 --> 01:21:34,880
that's what they're trying to do folks

2035
01:21:37,590 --> 01:21:36,639
they're trying to keep their long cons

2036
01:21:39,990 --> 01:21:37,600
going

2037
01:21:41,590 --> 01:21:40,000
can't have a critical thinker coming in

2038
01:21:43,510 --> 01:21:41,600
and proving that there's nothing

2039
01:21:45,430 --> 01:21:43,520
paranormal going on at this place that

2040
01:21:47,830 --> 01:21:45,440
this man is taking massive amounts of

2041
01:21:49,750 --> 01:21:47,840
money from people every year to come to

2042
01:21:52,870 --> 01:21:49,760
this place to experience this so-called

2043
01:21:55,510 --> 01:21:52,880
paranormal phenomenon and james gillian

2044
01:21:57,430 --> 01:21:55,520
i have a challenge for you let me come

2045
01:21:59,430 --> 01:21:57,440
and investigate the paranormal the

2046
01:22:00,950 --> 01:21:59,440
so-called paranormal phenomenon there

2047
01:22:03,990 --> 01:22:00,960
around your ranch

2048
01:22:06,070 --> 01:22:04,000
let me i'm a very experienced camper you

2049
01:22:08,149 --> 01:22:06,080
don't have to do anything

2050
01:22:09,590 --> 01:22:08,159
show me a place where i can pitch a tent

2051
01:22:12,310 --> 01:22:09,600
i'm going to bring some equipment some

2052
01:22:13,510 --> 01:22:12,320
solar panels to power my equipment

2053
01:22:15,990 --> 01:22:13,520
and uh

2054
01:22:18,950 --> 01:22:16,000
some night vision goggles and some uh

2055
01:22:21,830 --> 01:22:18,960
some telescopes some binoculars so that

2056
01:22:25,830 --> 01:22:21,840
we can see with more detail

2057
01:22:28,070 --> 01:22:25,840
i have a great deal of

2058
01:22:30,870 --> 01:22:28,080
photographic equipment

2059
01:22:31,990 --> 01:22:30,880
uh on some of my telescopes and and

2060
01:22:33,270 --> 01:22:32,000
video

2061
01:22:36,070 --> 01:22:33,280
and

2062
01:22:38,550 --> 01:22:36,080
you provide crappy grainy video to

2063
01:22:40,229 --> 01:22:38,560
people that you offer some kind of proof

2064
01:22:42,229 --> 01:22:40,239
why don't you let someone with a little

2065
01:22:43,990 --> 01:22:42,239
more professional equipment come and

2066
01:22:46,070 --> 01:22:44,000
photograph these things

2067
01:22:48,870 --> 01:22:46,080
and videotape these things

2068
01:22:51,430 --> 01:22:48,880
and then we'll see what they really are

2069
01:22:53,669 --> 01:22:51,440
so that's my challenge to one james

2070
01:22:55,750 --> 01:22:53,679
gilligan let me come if you won't let

2071
01:22:57,270 --> 01:22:55,760
cliff come let me come in his place and

2072
01:22:58,950 --> 01:22:57,280
let me investigate these things and

2073
01:23:00,149 --> 01:22:58,960
report back to the community what it is

2074
01:23:02,229 --> 01:23:00,159
that i saw

2075
01:23:04,310 --> 01:23:02,239
but i got a prediction folks he's not

2076
01:23:06,629 --> 01:23:04,320
going to let me anywhere near that place

2077
01:23:08,310 --> 01:23:06,639
he's not going to let me or anybody

2078
01:23:10,550 --> 01:23:08,320
that's going to be critical of his

2079
01:23:12,870 --> 01:23:10,560
claims that's going to require proof and

2080
01:23:14,550 --> 01:23:12,880
evidence of his ridiculous his claims

2081
01:23:16,790 --> 01:23:14,560
are ridiculous folks

2082
01:23:18,310 --> 01:23:16,800
there's flying saucers flying over his

2083
01:23:21,590 --> 01:23:18,320
ranch every day

2084
01:23:23,430 --> 01:23:21,600
come on folks and all he has is grainy

2085
01:23:25,350 --> 01:23:23,440
crappy videos where you see like a light

2086
01:23:27,189 --> 01:23:25,360
in the sky that's his proof i've looked

2087
01:23:29,189 --> 01:23:27,199
at all the videos folks and all of the

2088
01:23:32,310 --> 01:23:29,199
videos are ridiculous

2089
01:23:33,270 --> 01:23:32,320
if this man really had flying saucers or

2090
01:23:38,229 --> 01:23:33,280
extra

2091
01:23:40,550 --> 01:23:38,239
his ranch every day

2092
01:23:42,870 --> 01:23:40,560
he'd have some better proof than some

2093
01:23:44,550 --> 01:23:42,880
you know grainy videos with lights in

2094
01:23:45,990 --> 01:23:44,560
the sky

2095
01:23:47,669 --> 01:23:46,000
but he doesn't

2096
01:23:49,030 --> 01:23:47,679
in fact he doesn't have any proof other

2097
01:23:52,149 --> 01:23:49,040
than that

2098
01:23:54,470 --> 01:23:52,159
he has his stories

2099
01:23:56,149 --> 01:23:54,480
his stories folks is

2100
01:23:58,629 --> 01:23:56,159
all the proof that he offers here's my

2101
01:24:01,510 --> 01:23:58,639
stories i i've been selling this

2102
01:24:04,470 --> 01:24:01,520
nonsense for well i was on admission 33

2103
01:24:06,950 --> 01:24:04,480
years he's been selling this nonsense

2104
01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:06,960
and i gotta say not allowing

2105
01:24:12,229 --> 01:24:10,480
a critical thinker into your so-called

2106
01:24:14,629 --> 01:24:12,239
you know i don't know

2107
01:24:18,149 --> 01:24:14,639
extra dimensional rift

2108
01:24:19,910 --> 01:24:18,159
ranch is proof in and of itself that

2109
01:24:21,510 --> 01:24:19,920
your claims are ridiculous that your

2110
01:24:23,110 --> 01:24:21,520
claims are fake

2111
01:24:25,030 --> 01:24:23,120
because if this stuff was really

2112
01:24:26,229 --> 01:24:25,040
happening you wouldn't care who was

2113
01:24:27,990 --> 01:24:26,239
there

2114
01:24:30,149 --> 01:24:28,000
folks if i had a ranch where flying

2115
01:24:33,830 --> 01:24:30,159
saucers were flying over every day i'd

2116
01:24:35,830 --> 01:24:33,840
be inviting cnn i'd be inviting

2117
01:24:38,950 --> 01:24:35,840
the history channel i'd be inviting

2118
01:24:40,870 --> 01:24:38,960
everybody come bring your cameras look

2119
01:24:42,870 --> 01:24:40,880
at what's going on here

2120
01:24:45,189 --> 01:24:42,880
and i'd be inviting skeptics most

2121
01:24:47,030 --> 01:24:45,199
importantly i'd be inviting skeptics if

2122
01:24:49,590 --> 01:24:47,040
this if there was truth to what he's

2123
01:24:51,350 --> 01:24:49,600
saying invite skeptics let the skeptics

2124
01:24:53,430 --> 01:24:51,360
go and do their work

2125
01:24:55,430 --> 01:24:53,440
and prove you right or wrong

2126
01:24:57,350 --> 01:24:55,440
but he's not going to do that folks

2127
01:24:59,110 --> 01:24:57,360
because these men all operate on the

2128
01:25:00,470 --> 01:24:59,120
gray areas like well this might be you

2129
01:25:02,149 --> 01:25:00,480
know people think well there might be

2130
01:25:04,070 --> 01:25:02,159
something to this

2131
01:25:05,910 --> 01:25:04,080
yeah there might be because he won't let

2132
01:25:09,030 --> 01:25:05,920
anybody good enough to do the real

2133
01:25:11,270 --> 01:25:09,040
research he he's had 33 years folks he's

2134
01:25:13,430 --> 01:25:11,280
had 33 years to do research into this

2135
01:25:14,550 --> 01:25:13,440
so-called paranormal phenomenon what has

2136
01:25:17,030 --> 01:25:14,560
he done

2137
01:25:19,110 --> 01:25:17,040
nothing but sell tickets and profit

2138
01:25:21,189 --> 01:25:19,120
from it that's what he's done

2139
01:25:23,750 --> 01:25:21,199
he's not a researcher he's not somebody

2140
01:25:25,669 --> 01:25:23,760
that has critically thought through

2141
01:25:27,990 --> 01:25:25,679
what's actually happening if there is

2142
01:25:28,709 --> 01:25:28,000
any real phenomenon there

2143
01:25:30,629 --> 01:25:28,719
no

2144
01:25:32,229 --> 01:25:30,639
he went right to let's sell this we

2145
01:25:34,229 --> 01:25:32,239
could sell this

2146
01:25:38,149 --> 01:25:34,239
he never did the work

2147
01:25:39,830 --> 01:25:38,159
to provide proof of any of his claims

2148
01:25:41,270 --> 01:25:39,840
if he did that i would have tremendous

2149
01:25:43,990 --> 01:25:41,280
respect for him but apparently he's had

2150
01:25:45,830 --> 01:25:44,000
33 years he could have gotten paranormal

2151
01:25:48,470 --> 01:25:45,840
experts in there to do real

2152
01:25:50,870 --> 01:25:48,480
investigative work to do real research

2153
01:25:53,590 --> 01:25:50,880
to do real documentation of events that

2154
01:25:55,510 --> 01:25:53,600
were occurring there if they truly were

2155
01:25:58,870 --> 01:25:55,520
he didn't do that he went right to

2156
01:26:01,350 --> 01:25:58,880
selling workshops and camping trips

2157
01:26:03,430 --> 01:26:01,360
and healing sessions

2158
01:26:05,270 --> 01:26:03,440
because you know

2159
01:26:07,430 --> 01:26:05,280
he's some kind of shaman and he's going

2160
01:26:08,470 --> 01:26:07,440
to heal you

2161
01:26:10,149 --> 01:26:08,480
folks

2162
01:26:12,390 --> 01:26:10,159
it's ridiculous and the fact that he

2163
01:26:14,790 --> 01:26:12,400
don't go fund me begging for money is

2164
01:26:17,590 --> 01:26:14,800
another red flag why are all these

2165
01:26:19,830 --> 01:26:17,600
cosmic con men so in love with going to

2166
01:26:21,750 --> 01:26:19,840
gofundme and getting free money you ever

2167
01:26:23,270 --> 01:26:21,760
noticed that it's not just this james

2168
01:26:25,750 --> 01:26:23,280
gillian

2169
01:26:28,229 --> 01:26:25,760
it's billy carson it's pete peterson

2170
01:26:29,750 --> 01:26:28,239
they're all gofundme begging for money

2171
01:26:31,669 --> 01:26:29,760
from people

2172
01:26:33,910 --> 01:26:31,679
it's ridiculous it's absolutely

2173
01:26:37,189 --> 01:26:33,920
ridiculous these cosmic con men can

2174
01:26:39,030 --> 01:26:37,199
continue their cons and i gotta say

2175
01:26:40,950 --> 01:26:39,040
i'm surprised that he hasn't had more

2176
01:26:43,750 --> 01:26:40,960
trouble from the local authorities

2177
01:26:46,310 --> 01:26:43,760
including the law enforcement there

2178
01:26:47,990 --> 01:26:46,320
you can't sell something as this is

2179
01:26:49,110 --> 01:26:48,000
extraterrestrial

2180
01:26:52,149 --> 01:26:49,120
this is

2181
01:26:53,830 --> 01:26:52,159
otherworldly dimensional beings flying

2182
01:26:56,629 --> 01:26:53,840
over my ranch

2183
01:26:59,270 --> 01:26:56,639
when it's some guy with flashlights off

2184
01:27:01,910 --> 01:26:59,280
in a mountain or turning headlights on

2185
01:27:03,830 --> 01:27:01,920
and off or satellites flying over

2186
01:27:07,270 --> 01:27:03,840
because you memorize the satellite

2187
01:27:09,750 --> 01:27:07,280
schedule over your property

2188
01:27:13,350 --> 01:27:09,760
that my friends amounts to a criminal

2189
01:27:15,590 --> 01:27:13,360
act if he's intentionally selling this

2190
01:27:19,350 --> 01:27:15,600
fairy tale knowing

2191
01:27:21,110 --> 01:27:19,360
or using deceit or trickery to generate

2192
01:27:23,350 --> 01:27:21,120
some of these so-called paranormal

2193
01:27:25,910 --> 01:27:23,360
phenomena that i i believe that that

2194
01:27:28,149 --> 01:27:25,920
rises to a criminal act and it should be

2195
01:27:29,669 --> 01:27:28,159
looked into by the local authorities he

2196
01:27:31,430 --> 01:27:29,679
should not be allowed to continue to

2197
01:27:32,950 --> 01:27:31,440
take money from people making these

2198
01:27:36,390 --> 01:27:32,960
claims

2199
01:27:40,870 --> 01:27:36,400
and that my friends is where i am at

2200
01:27:43,110 --> 01:27:40,880
with the so-called e-city ranch

2201
01:27:45,990 --> 01:27:43,120
and you know i try to get cliff high on

2202
01:27:47,910 --> 01:27:46,000
as a guest and i'm sure he's a very busy

2203
01:27:49,750 --> 01:27:47,920
guy reached out to him then hear back

2204
01:27:50,629 --> 01:27:49,760
from him and i'm kind of on a deadline

2205
01:27:52,310 --> 01:27:50,639
here

2206
01:27:54,950 --> 01:27:52,320
and then i suddenly realized that cliff

2207
01:27:58,229 --> 01:27:54,960
high made a video about this

2208
01:28:01,510 --> 01:27:58,239
uh talking about his getting banned from

2209
01:28:03,830 --> 01:28:01,520
e ceti ranch

2210
01:28:06,229 --> 01:28:03,840
and then i realized that

2211
01:28:08,470 --> 01:28:06,239
you know most of the questions that i i

2212
01:28:09,590 --> 01:28:08,480
would have for cliff i as a guest

2213
01:28:10,629 --> 01:28:09,600
tonight

2214
01:28:17,030 --> 01:28:10,639
were

2215
01:28:19,189 --> 01:28:17,040
so i'm going to cite fair use here and

2216
01:28:21,750 --> 01:28:19,199
i have to say that i hope that cliff is

2217
01:28:23,030 --> 01:28:21,760
okay with me using this clip because i

2218
01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:23,040
fully support

2219
01:28:29,350 --> 01:28:25,920
everything that he says

2220
01:28:30,229 --> 01:28:29,360
about his being banned and i stand with

2221
01:28:32,229 --> 01:28:30,239
him

2222
01:28:33,669 --> 01:28:32,239
in saying hey

2223
01:28:37,510 --> 01:28:33,679
uh

2224
01:28:38,390 --> 01:28:37,520
james gillian why don't you grow a set

2225
01:28:39,270 --> 01:28:38,400
and

2226
01:28:41,590 --> 01:28:39,280
let

2227
01:28:44,870 --> 01:28:41,600
someone like me or cliff high or better

2228
01:28:47,590 --> 01:28:44,880
yet why don't you let me and cliff i

2229
01:28:49,350 --> 01:28:47,600
go on your ranch for a weekend the two

2230
01:28:50,870 --> 01:28:49,360
of us

2231
01:28:53,030 --> 01:28:50,880
and i'm pretty sure if you were

2232
01:28:54,629 --> 01:28:53,040
courageous enough

2233
01:28:58,950 --> 01:28:54,639
to let

2234
01:29:02,310 --> 01:28:58,960
cliff high and me together or separately

2235
01:29:04,550 --> 01:29:02,320
spend some time there with our equipment

2236
01:29:07,669 --> 01:29:04,560
and our knowledge and our expertise we

2237
01:29:10,390 --> 01:29:07,679
would be able to determine if there was

2238
01:29:11,510 --> 01:29:10,400
really any paranormal phenomenon going

2239
01:29:14,149 --> 01:29:11,520
on there

2240
01:29:16,709 --> 01:29:14,159
or if it was all trickery

2241
01:29:19,270 --> 01:29:16,719
magic tricks and entertainment provided

2242
01:29:21,430 --> 01:29:19,280
for your paying guests

2243
01:29:22,310 --> 01:29:21,440
but i don't believe

2244
01:29:24,790 --> 01:29:22,320
that

2245
01:29:26,149 --> 01:29:24,800
one james gillian

2246
01:29:27,590 --> 01:29:26,159
will

2247
01:29:30,229 --> 01:29:27,600
agree to that

2248
01:29:32,950 --> 01:29:30,239
in fact i'm sure he won't

2249
01:29:37,350 --> 01:29:32,960
because he's a coward trying to preserve

2250
01:29:40,629 --> 01:29:37,360
his 33 year long con game

2251
01:29:42,629 --> 01:29:40,639
selling this nonsense with no proof no

2252
01:29:44,149 --> 01:29:42,639
evidence other than grainy videos and

2253
01:29:46,390 --> 01:29:44,159
lights in the sky

2254
01:29:49,189 --> 01:29:46,400
he's not going to do it folks

2255
01:29:50,709 --> 01:29:49,199
but the challenge is open

2256
01:29:53,510 --> 01:29:50,719
if he'll do that

2257
01:29:57,030 --> 01:29:53,520
then i'll buy a plane ticket tomorrow

2258
01:30:00,229 --> 01:29:57,040
i'll pack my gear i'll go there i will

2259
01:30:03,110 --> 01:30:00,239
do an exhaustive intensive investigation

2260
01:30:05,910 --> 01:30:03,120
into his claims of paranormal phenomenon

2261
01:30:08,470 --> 01:30:05,920
there and then i will report to the

2262
01:30:09,750 --> 01:30:08,480
community what i find

2263
01:30:12,390 --> 01:30:09,760
if not me

2264
01:30:14,070 --> 01:30:12,400
then let someone else do it

2265
01:30:16,470 --> 01:30:14,080
he's not going to let any critical

2266
01:30:18,470 --> 01:30:16,480
thinking good researcher in there to

2267
01:30:21,030 --> 01:30:18,480
look at his claims he's just going to

2268
01:30:23,750 --> 01:30:21,040
try to preserve his long con

2269
01:30:27,510 --> 01:30:23,760
now folks let's take a moment and listen

2270
01:30:30,390 --> 01:30:27,520
to a clip from a cliff high video where

2271
01:30:33,350 --> 01:30:30,400
he discusses how he feels

2272
01:30:34,790 --> 01:30:33,360
and what he's going to do about being

2273
01:30:36,790 --> 01:30:34,800
banned

2274
01:30:40,470 --> 01:30:36,800
by this e

2275
01:30:44,310 --> 01:30:42,390
under my circumstances i had to see what

2276
01:30:46,390 --> 01:30:44,320
were the constraints and so i sent him

2277
01:30:47,830 --> 01:30:46,400
an email and they responded and said you

2278
01:30:49,750 --> 01:30:47,840
know bugger off you're not allowed to

2279
01:30:51,750 --> 01:30:49,760
show up and they said you're you're not

2280
01:30:53,430 --> 01:30:51,760
allowed to show up because you have a

2281
01:30:55,669 --> 01:30:53,440
because of your belief about these

2282
01:30:57,590 --> 01:30:55,679
individuals and because we're trying to

2283
01:31:00,390 --> 01:30:57,600
protect and preserve

2284
01:31:03,110 --> 01:31:00,400
the um

2285
01:31:05,669 --> 01:31:03,120
mental uh or not mental but the the

2286
01:31:07,590 --> 01:31:05,679
vibrational state of the ex of their

2287
01:31:10,470 --> 01:31:07,600
little conference thing

2288
01:31:12,629 --> 01:31:10,480
and so i took from that uh that this was

2289
01:31:15,030 --> 01:31:12,639
a religious or a belief system

2290
01:31:16,950 --> 01:31:15,040
uh discrimination and that's illegal in

2291
01:31:19,990 --> 01:31:16,960
our state okay these guys are offering a

2292
01:31:21,350 --> 01:31:20,000
public venue um and taking money from

2293
01:31:24,149 --> 01:31:21,360
the public and they're reporting to a

2294
01:31:26,070 --> 01:31:24,159
washington state tax authority all based

2295
01:31:27,910 --> 01:31:26,080
on people attending this thing so they

2296
01:31:30,870 --> 01:31:27,920
have to operate like any other kind of a

2297
01:31:32,390 --> 01:31:30,880
conference any other kind of a concert

2298
01:31:34,550 --> 01:31:32,400
any other kind of a public meeting

2299
01:31:37,590 --> 01:31:34,560
publicly advertised taking money

2300
01:31:39,189 --> 01:31:37,600
publicly and reporting that to the tax

2301
01:31:42,310 --> 01:31:39,199
authorities of the state

2302
01:31:43,990 --> 01:31:42,320
and so i was offended

2303
01:31:45,669 --> 01:31:44,000
i'm not a violent person i've made no

2304
01:31:47,750 --> 01:31:45,679
threats against any of these individuals

2305
01:31:51,110 --> 01:31:47,760
in spite of what they may be saying

2306
01:31:52,390 --> 01:31:51,120
and um i'm in no way a security risk to

2307
01:31:55,910 --> 01:31:52,400
anyone

2308
01:31:57,910 --> 01:31:55,920
and i and if my mere presence was so

2309
01:32:00,950 --> 01:31:57,920
disruptive there are some conclusions

2310
01:32:02,950 --> 01:32:00,960
that can be gained okay if my presence

2311
01:32:04,629 --> 01:32:02,960
was going to be so disrupting to indiv

2312
01:32:06,870 --> 01:32:04,639
these individuals then these are little

2313
01:32:09,189 --> 01:32:06,880
fragile eggshells that can't take any

2314
01:32:10,790 --> 01:32:09,199
criticism whatsoever that's that's

2315
01:32:13,189 --> 01:32:10,800
obvious on the face of it just if

2316
01:32:15,990 --> 01:32:13,199
they're afraid of me simply showing up

2317
01:32:18,629 --> 01:32:16,000
and then uh other things that we can

2318
01:32:19,590 --> 01:32:18,639
assume or make conclusions about is that

2319
01:32:21,990 --> 01:32:19,600
maybe

2320
01:32:24,070 --> 01:32:22,000
the effects that are touted at each city

2321
01:32:26,310 --> 01:32:24,080
of talking with the space brothers and

2322
01:32:28,310 --> 01:32:26,320
all this kind of stuff only exist

2323
01:32:30,310 --> 01:32:28,320
because of conditions that they create

2324
01:32:32,390 --> 01:32:30,320
there and that these are not not

2325
01:32:34,470 --> 01:32:32,400
naturally occurring events in other

2326
01:32:36,870 --> 01:32:34,480
words their tricks their entertainment

2327
01:32:39,270 --> 01:32:36,880
maybe they don't indeed ever do anything

2328
01:32:41,669 --> 01:32:39,280
that is accurate i know for a fact

2329
01:32:43,590 --> 01:32:41,679
they're not reporting accurately

2330
01:32:46,950 --> 01:32:43,600
about some things because i've seen on

2331
01:32:49,590 --> 01:32:46,960
youtube a video that was uh reported and

2332
01:32:51,270 --> 01:32:49,600
talked about by uh uh

2333
01:32:53,590 --> 01:32:51,280
gillian and

2334
01:32:56,229 --> 01:32:53,600
uh jimmy church that i know of and this

2335
01:32:57,669 --> 01:32:56,239
video purports to be of a as gillian

2336
01:32:59,510 --> 01:32:57,679
described it i think he said it was like

2337
01:33:01,750 --> 01:32:59,520
1300 feet wide

2338
01:33:04,550 --> 01:33:01,760
and or it was like moving at 1300 miles

2339
01:33:06,870 --> 01:33:04,560
per hour and it was like 150 feet wide a

2340
01:33:08,629 --> 01:33:06,880
ufo that comes zooming past

2341
01:33:12,070 --> 01:33:08,639
somebody's cell phone camera what they

2342
01:33:13,669 --> 01:33:12,080
actually captured was a falcon in a

2343
01:33:15,270 --> 01:33:13,679
hunting swoop

2344
01:33:16,950 --> 01:33:15,280
these uh it was had all the

2345
01:33:18,950 --> 01:33:16,960
characteristics of a falcon and hunting

2346
01:33:20,870 --> 01:33:18,960
swoop captured on on the cell phone

2347
01:33:23,590 --> 01:33:20,880
these people don't understand that it

2348
01:33:26,070 --> 01:33:23,600
was close it was not far away and that

2349
01:33:28,790 --> 01:33:26,080
had it been 150 feet wide

2350
01:33:30,550 --> 01:33:28,800
especially with some kind of a um even

2351
01:33:32,709 --> 01:33:30,560
without if it was just in free fall it

2352
01:33:33,910 --> 01:33:32,719
was 150 feet wide

2353
01:33:35,030 --> 01:33:33,920
it would have disturbed all of the

2354
01:33:37,669 --> 01:33:35,040
plants and everything there would have

2355
01:33:39,270 --> 01:33:37,679
been a huge amount of rushing uh leaves

2356
01:33:40,870 --> 01:33:39,280
there would have been disturbances there

2357
01:33:43,510 --> 01:33:40,880
would have been air everywhere all

2358
01:33:45,270 --> 01:33:43,520
around it uh as it came pushing down and

2359
01:33:46,790 --> 01:33:45,280
was physically there they're claiming it

2360
01:33:49,270 --> 01:33:46,800
was physically there it was a hundred

2361
01:33:52,550 --> 01:33:49,280
feet plus wide and it was moving at some

2362
01:33:54,550 --> 01:33:52,560
uh ungodly speed which i think i heard

2363
01:33:56,550 --> 01:33:54,560
one of them say was 1300 miles an hour

2364
01:33:58,709 --> 01:33:56,560
how they estimated this i don't know

2365
01:34:00,229 --> 01:33:58,719
but i know it's not 150 feet wide i know

2366
01:34:01,510 --> 01:34:00,239
it's not way back in the woods as

2367
01:34:03,030 --> 01:34:01,520
they're maintaining because none of

2368
01:34:04,470 --> 01:34:03,040
those trees are moving none of the grass

2369
01:34:06,390 --> 01:34:04,480
is disturbed there's no dust being

2370
01:34:08,470 --> 01:34:06,400
picked up and i live in this country you

2371
01:34:09,430 --> 01:34:08,480
get a good willy wall a good

2372
01:34:11,590 --> 01:34:09,440
um

2373
01:34:12,950 --> 01:34:11,600
uh a little dust double movement or a

2374
01:34:15,270 --> 01:34:12,960
little bit of wind and you got leaves

2375
01:34:16,790 --> 01:34:15,280
and stuff everywhere this time of year

2376
01:34:20,310 --> 01:34:16,800
and this was back last year but

2377
01:34:21,430 --> 01:34:20,320
nonetheless um this this was not a ufo

2378
01:34:23,430 --> 01:34:21,440
and so i know that they're not

2379
01:34:25,030 --> 01:34:23,440
accurately reporting these things and

2380
01:34:26,790 --> 01:34:25,040
they also don't understand how video

2381
01:34:29,350 --> 01:34:26,800
cameras capture things especially the

2382
01:34:30,709 --> 01:34:29,360
video cameras that are on uh cell phones

2383
01:34:33,110 --> 01:34:30,719
because a lot of it is software

2384
01:34:34,790 --> 01:34:33,120
manipulation to get you a decent image

2385
01:34:37,030 --> 01:34:34,800
uh something that the edge of wonder

2386
01:34:38,709 --> 01:34:37,040
guys are quite prone to doing

2387
01:34:40,629 --> 01:34:38,719
look at that oh my god oh my god what

2388
01:34:42,950 --> 01:34:40,639
they're doing is misinterpreting a

2389
01:34:46,470 --> 01:34:42,960
digital camera artifact as being some

2390
01:34:49,350 --> 01:34:46,480
space alien or some uh spooky um

2391
01:34:51,189 --> 01:34:49,360
interdimensional woo okay and so i like

2392
01:34:52,950 --> 01:34:51,199
wu i want to see interdimensional beings

2393
01:34:54,870 --> 01:34:52,960
and and interact with them and so on i'm

2394
01:34:56,229 --> 01:34:54,880
not against wu not against james

2395
01:34:58,550 --> 01:34:56,239
gillian's uh

2396
01:35:00,070 --> 01:34:58,560
stated goals not against anything that

2397
01:35:02,870 --> 01:35:00,080
they've said about that i'm against

2398
01:35:04,709 --> 01:35:02,880
their misreporting and taking instantly

2399
01:35:06,550 --> 01:35:04,719
anything that shows up as proof and

2400
01:35:08,310 --> 01:35:06,560
evidence of their position

2401
01:35:09,990 --> 01:35:08,320
i'm um

2402
01:35:12,550 --> 01:35:10,000
intensely critical of my own position

2403
01:35:13,990 --> 01:35:12,560
and don't want to be self-diluting and

2404
01:35:16,149 --> 01:35:14,000
but i wanted to see i wanted to

2405
01:35:19,109 --> 01:35:16,159
ascertain so i actually was willing to

2406
01:35:21,270 --> 01:35:19,119
change my mind and and form a different

2407
01:35:23,189 --> 01:35:21,280
opinion and i figured that if i went for

2408
01:35:25,430 --> 01:35:23,199
a couple of days to e-city i would come

2409
01:35:27,030 --> 01:35:25,440
out either with my opinion confirmed or

2410
01:35:29,030 --> 01:35:27,040
i would come out with a change know

2411
01:35:31,270 --> 01:35:29,040
either way it was fine with me if i show

2412
01:35:33,510 --> 01:35:31,280
up there and and uh the the conditions

2413
01:35:35,750 --> 01:35:33,520
were exactly as they stated i would make

2414
01:35:37,270 --> 01:35:35,760
a video saying look what i saw uh but if

2415
01:35:39,910 --> 01:35:37,280
on the other hand i found out that it

2416
01:35:41,189 --> 01:35:39,920
was trickery and was deceit i would say

2417
01:35:43,350 --> 01:35:41,199
deceit

2418
01:35:46,390 --> 01:35:43,360
and uh if my opinion changed corey good

2419
01:35:48,470 --> 01:35:46,400
i'd be quite happy to state that um

2420
01:35:51,030 --> 01:35:48,480
you know not trying to uh can make

2421
01:35:51,990 --> 01:35:51,040
reality conform to my wild opinions or

2422
01:35:53,189 --> 01:35:52,000
um

2423
01:35:55,030 --> 01:35:53,199
stances

2424
01:35:57,189 --> 01:35:55,040
in any event so here's here's the upshot

2425
01:35:59,750 --> 01:35:57,199
of it all uh uh

2426
01:36:01,669 --> 01:35:59,760
i think that that anybody that is so

2427
01:36:03,990 --> 01:36:01,679
disrupted by my appearance of just

2428
01:36:05,590 --> 01:36:04,000
sitting there is guilty of some kind of

2429
01:36:08,390 --> 01:36:05,600
and is um

2430
01:36:10,550 --> 01:36:08,400
expressing that guilt uh through uh

2431
01:36:13,109 --> 01:36:10,560
rampaging paranoia that i might in some

2432
01:36:15,830 --> 01:36:13,119
way be a danger to him uh i threaten no

2433
01:36:17,910 --> 01:36:15,840
one physically ever i threaten ideas all

2434
01:36:19,990 --> 01:36:17,920
the time i threaten ideas and if your

2435
01:36:21,830 --> 01:36:20,000
ideas are so fragile that they can't

2436
01:36:23,990 --> 01:36:21,840
handle being threatened then they're not

2437
01:36:25,750 --> 01:36:24,000
worth bringing into the public ideas

2438
01:36:27,990 --> 01:36:25,760
have to be tested there's an old

2439
01:36:31,510 --> 01:36:28,000
japanese saying

2440
01:36:34,550 --> 01:36:31,520
men and steel and ideas are tested by

2441
01:36:36,310 --> 01:36:34,560
other men other steel and other ideas

2442
01:36:37,910 --> 01:36:36,320
and if you're afraid of your ideas being

2443
01:36:40,390 --> 01:36:37,920
tested then you're admitting that

2444
01:36:42,229 --> 01:36:40,400
they're too weak to stand up to it uh so

2445
01:36:44,390 --> 01:36:42,239
this is my opinion currently of corey

2446
01:36:46,790 --> 01:36:44,400
goode that his ideas are so weak that

2447
01:36:48,310 --> 01:36:46,800
he's unable to and unwilling to do

2448
01:36:50,629 --> 01:36:48,320
anything to allow them to come into

2449
01:36:52,070 --> 01:36:50,639
conflict with any other idea

2450
01:36:53,910 --> 01:36:52,080
uh the same thing is true of david

2451
01:36:57,030 --> 01:36:53,920
wilcock in fact david wilcock actually

2452
01:36:58,709 --> 01:36:57,040
has physical reactions to the eye to uh

2453
01:37:00,149 --> 01:36:58,719
his ideas being threatened you can see

2454
01:37:02,390 --> 01:37:00,159
it in his in his

2455
01:37:04,790 --> 01:37:02,400
um in his movements his mannerisms and

2456
01:37:07,830 --> 01:37:04,800
hear it in his voice that he is

2457
01:37:09,990 --> 01:37:07,840
disturbed by other ideas in conflict

2458
01:37:11,510 --> 01:37:10,000
with his ideas you can call me any damn

2459
01:37:12,870 --> 01:37:11,520
name you want i'll be quite happy to sit

2460
01:37:14,870 --> 01:37:12,880
there and debate you and not get all

2461
01:37:16,550 --> 01:37:14,880
emotional and twisted up about it you

2462
01:37:18,470 --> 01:37:16,560
can be as insulting as

2463
01:37:20,310 --> 01:37:18,480
you wish and i'll still talk with you

2464
01:37:22,070 --> 01:37:20,320
and i have proof of this i have people

2465
01:37:23,669 --> 01:37:22,080
that don't like me that think that i

2466
01:37:25,590 --> 01:37:23,679
they have a or that have a an

2467
01:37:27,510 --> 01:37:25,600
interesting opinion of me and i still

2468
01:37:31,189 --> 01:37:27,520
talk with them and i can cite c.w

2469
01:37:32,870 --> 01:37:31,199
chanter as someone of that nature uh

2470
01:37:34,390 --> 01:37:32,880
so you know he and i have had a

2471
01:37:36,870 --> 01:37:34,400
contentious relationship

2472
01:37:38,950 --> 01:37:36,880
and it and yet there's no

2473
01:37:41,030 --> 01:37:38,960
animosity between us because it's a

2474
01:37:43,590 --> 01:37:41,040
contention of ideas not a contention of

2475
01:37:45,510 --> 01:37:43,600
our individual nature or whatever these

2476
01:37:47,910 --> 01:37:45,520
people that he said he offended me

2477
01:37:50,709 --> 01:37:47,920
because they are they are banning me

2478
01:37:52,629 --> 01:37:50,719
because of my ideas because of my belief

2479
01:37:54,310 --> 01:37:52,639
system so as far as i'm concerned that's

2480
01:37:57,189 --> 01:37:54,320
like un-american

2481
01:37:58,790 --> 01:37:57,199
and you know that's also cowardly and so

2482
01:38:00,550 --> 01:37:58,800
that's what i think that they're they're

2483
01:38:03,910 --> 01:38:00,560
cowardly

2484
01:38:05,270 --> 01:38:03,920
and unfortunately i'm old i'm really

2485
01:38:06,229 --> 01:38:05,280
pissed about it

2486
01:38:08,390 --> 01:38:06,239
um

2487
01:38:11,350 --> 01:38:08,400
because of being denied this opportunity

2488
01:38:13,669 --> 01:38:11,360
so i'm filing human uh washington state

2489
01:38:15,109 --> 01:38:13,679
human rights commission

2490
01:38:17,510 --> 01:38:15,119
complaint

2491
01:38:20,229 --> 01:38:17,520
and i'll take it as far as it'll go and

2492
01:38:23,030 --> 01:38:20,239
i have the resources to pursue it uh

2493
01:38:25,430 --> 01:38:23,040
individually as well as through the um

2494
01:38:28,149 --> 01:38:25,440
mechanism of the human rights commission

2495
01:38:30,229 --> 01:38:28,159
so hey e seti you didn't let me show up

2496
01:38:32,229 --> 01:38:30,239
at your place i'll be happy to see you

2497
01:38:33,990 --> 01:38:32,239
guys in olympia at an administrative

2498
01:38:35,430 --> 01:38:34,000
hearing when we discuss the ins and outs

2499
01:38:38,950 --> 01:38:35,440
of rcw

2500
01:38:40,709 --> 01:38:38,960
uh 49.60 all right banning someone on

2501
01:38:42,950 --> 01:38:40,719
the basis of religion or belief is

2502
01:38:44,950 --> 01:38:42,960
against the law in this state so you

2503
01:38:46,629 --> 01:38:44,960
know and i hate to characterize people

2504
01:38:49,590 --> 01:38:46,639
but when you ban me

2505
01:38:51,750 --> 01:38:49,600
in the the approach that your love and

2506
01:38:56,149 --> 01:38:51,760
light administrator

2507
01:38:57,510 --> 01:38:56,159
used uh was hurtful and it was um uh and

2508
01:38:58,870 --> 01:38:57,520
i was willing to come there and let you

2509
01:39:00,629 --> 01:38:58,880
prove me wrong

2510
01:39:02,870 --> 01:39:00,639
instead you proved me correct in my

2511
01:39:05,350 --> 01:39:02,880
opinion that you're small petty-minded

2512
01:39:07,350 --> 01:39:05,360
and um unable to deal with uh any

2513
01:39:09,030 --> 01:39:07,360
outside interference with your near a

2514
01:39:11,270 --> 01:39:09,040
little bubble of understanding and all

2515
01:39:12,870 --> 01:39:11,280
of your confirmation biases no no no no

2516
01:39:15,030 --> 01:39:12,880
we can't get outside of our confirmation

2517
01:39:17,830 --> 01:39:15,040
biases we can't have any disturbing

2518
01:39:20,310 --> 01:39:17,840
thoughts because we're so fragile

2519
01:39:22,310 --> 01:39:20,320
and that's that's how it feels dudes so

2520
01:39:25,109 --> 01:39:22,320
we'll see in the human rights commission

2521
01:39:27,750 --> 01:39:25,119
um hearings i'm filing my

2522
01:39:31,669 --> 01:39:27,760
uh complaint against you today

2523
01:39:32,390 --> 01:39:31,679
uh it's a an egregious little uh

2524
01:39:33,750 --> 01:39:32,400
uh

2525
01:39:35,350 --> 01:39:33,760
amount of work

2526
01:39:37,510 --> 01:39:35,360
for me to have to go through to pursue

2527
01:39:40,070 --> 01:39:37,520
this but it's worth it to me just to get

2528
01:39:43,510 --> 01:39:40,080
into olympia and have you sit down in my

2529
01:39:45,750 --> 01:39:43,520
presence and deal with my ideas so nice

2530
01:39:47,189 --> 01:39:45,760
meeting y'all

2531
01:39:50,950 --> 01:39:47,199
well my friends

2532
01:39:53,669 --> 01:39:50,960
i have a feeling that one james gillian

2533
01:39:58,229 --> 01:39:53,679
and essetti branch

2534
01:40:01,270 --> 01:39:58,239
has not heard the last of one cliff high

2535
01:40:02,629 --> 01:40:01,280
and you know i think that cliff high

2536
01:40:04,790 --> 01:40:02,639
should be

2537
01:40:07,510 --> 01:40:04,800
praised and applauded for standing up

2538
01:40:09,510 --> 01:40:07,520
for himself for saying no no you're not

2539
01:40:11,430 --> 01:40:09,520
going to run a public event where you're

2540
01:40:13,350 --> 01:40:11,440
claiming all this paranormal activity

2541
01:40:16,550 --> 01:40:13,360
happens and take money from all these

2542
01:40:18,629 --> 01:40:16,560
people and not allow

2543
01:40:21,510 --> 01:40:18,639
individuals who are critical of your

2544
01:40:24,470 --> 01:40:21,520
claims to also attend

2545
01:40:28,310 --> 01:40:24,480
and i and i agree with him it's a public

2546
01:40:31,109 --> 01:40:28,320
thing anybody with the money can attend

2547
01:40:32,629 --> 01:40:31,119
anybody that is except people

2548
01:40:35,189 --> 01:40:32,639
who are critical

2549
01:40:37,189 --> 01:40:35,199
of james gillian and his paranormal

2550
01:40:38,709 --> 01:40:37,199
claims

2551
01:40:40,950 --> 01:40:38,719
do you think

2552
01:40:43,189 --> 01:40:40,960
my friends that it's a coincidence that

2553
01:40:44,229 --> 01:40:43,199
anybody that's a believer is allowed to

2554
01:40:46,229 --> 01:40:44,239
attend

2555
01:40:48,470 --> 01:40:46,239
but someone who has asked too many

2556
01:40:51,590 --> 01:40:48,480
questions who has questioned the

2557
01:40:55,030 --> 01:40:51,600
validity of these paranormal claims

2558
01:40:58,390 --> 01:40:55,040
who has questioned the authenticity of

2559
01:41:00,470 --> 01:40:58,400
james gillian's paranormal claims

2560
01:41:02,470 --> 01:41:00,480
is not allowed to attend is that a

2561
01:41:05,189 --> 01:41:02,480
coincidence

2562
01:41:08,070 --> 01:41:05,199
i don't think so

2563
01:41:11,350 --> 01:41:08,080
i think james gillian

2564
01:41:13,350 --> 01:41:11,360
really lacks any courage whatsoever

2565
01:41:16,310 --> 01:41:13,360
about his claims

2566
01:41:20,629 --> 01:41:16,320
because folks if his claims were valid

2567
01:41:22,229 --> 01:41:20,639
and real they would be able just like

2568
01:41:23,669 --> 01:41:22,239
mr hai said

2569
01:41:25,590 --> 01:41:23,679
they would be able to stand up to

2570
01:41:27,830 --> 01:41:25,600
scrutiny and

2571
01:41:30,070 --> 01:41:27,840
to being challenged

2572
01:41:31,109 --> 01:41:30,080
and the fact that this coward

2573
01:41:33,669 --> 01:41:31,119
just

2574
01:41:35,669 --> 01:41:33,679
decides to ban a person

2575
01:41:37,189 --> 01:41:35,679
because they don't believe the claims

2576
01:41:38,950 --> 01:41:37,199
that he is making

2577
01:41:41,990 --> 01:41:38,960
tells you

2578
01:41:44,470 --> 01:41:42,000
everything you need to know about

2579
01:41:47,189 --> 01:41:44,480
this ranch and james

2580
01:41:49,270 --> 01:41:47,199
gillian

2581
01:41:51,350 --> 01:41:49,280
if the claims were real he'd let anyone

2582
01:41:53,590 --> 01:41:51,360
in there folks if there was real

2583
01:41:56,470 --> 01:41:53,600
paranormal activity he would not be

2584
01:41:58,950 --> 01:41:56,480
afraid to have a critic

2585
01:42:01,510 --> 01:41:58,960
attend an event there

2586
01:42:03,990 --> 01:42:01,520
the fact that he is so afraid of someone

2587
01:42:07,750 --> 01:42:04,000
like cliff high or i dare say someone

2588
01:42:09,590 --> 01:42:07,760
like me attending an event there

2589
01:42:12,070 --> 01:42:09,600
well then my friends

2590
01:42:14,629 --> 01:42:12,080
i think that proves

2591
01:42:17,030 --> 01:42:14,639
there is nothing to his claims and that

2592
01:42:19,430 --> 01:42:17,040
they they can't stand up to scrutiny

2593
01:42:21,350 --> 01:42:19,440
they can't even stand up to a critic

2594
01:42:24,470 --> 01:42:21,360
attending an event there

2595
01:42:26,149 --> 01:42:24,480
they're paranoid and

2596
01:42:31,189 --> 01:42:26,159
afraid

2597
01:42:32,149 --> 01:42:31,199
get out about their so-called paranormal

2598
01:42:33,669 --> 01:42:32,159
claims

2599
01:42:36,149 --> 01:42:33,679
the fact that they won't let someone

2600
01:42:37,990 --> 01:42:36,159
like cliff high or like i said i don't

2601
01:42:40,070 --> 01:42:38,000
think they'd let me in there and

2602
01:42:42,790 --> 01:42:40,080
actually i think that this is a good

2603
01:42:44,229 --> 01:42:42,800
experiment that we should all do

2604
01:42:45,510 --> 01:42:44,239
if you want to help

2605
01:42:47,830 --> 01:42:45,520
mr hai

2606
01:42:50,629 --> 01:42:47,840
and myself prove

2607
01:42:53,270 --> 01:42:50,639
that james gillian is a fraud then i

2608
01:42:55,669 --> 01:42:53,280
encourage you send james gillian some

2609
01:42:57,990 --> 01:42:55,679
messages you can contact him on facebook

2610
01:42:58,870 --> 01:42:58,000
he's got a east city ranch facebook

2611
01:43:00,390 --> 01:42:58,880
group

2612
01:43:02,709 --> 01:43:00,400
you can contact him

2613
01:43:04,229 --> 01:43:02,719
on his website

2614
01:43:06,310 --> 01:43:04,239
tell him you don't believe his claims

2615
01:43:08,709 --> 01:43:06,320
and you'd like to investigate his

2616
01:43:11,590 --> 01:43:08,719
paranormal claims when can i come to

2617
01:43:13,109 --> 01:43:11,600
your ranch i think

2618
01:43:15,189 --> 01:43:13,119
that

2619
01:43:17,990 --> 01:43:15,199
the poetic justice

2620
01:43:20,390 --> 01:43:18,000
that should come from this coward

2621
01:43:21,430 --> 01:43:20,400
banning one cliff high

2622
01:43:24,149 --> 01:43:21,440
should be

2623
01:43:27,510 --> 01:43:24,159
hundreds and hundreds of critically

2624
01:43:29,350 --> 01:43:27,520
thinking truth seekers challenging him

2625
01:43:30,390 --> 01:43:29,360
and saying i'm going to attend your

2626
01:43:31,830 --> 01:43:30,400
event

2627
01:43:35,189 --> 01:43:31,840
conversely

2628
01:43:37,270 --> 01:43:35,199
i think that people should keep quiet

2629
01:43:38,550 --> 01:43:37,280
not tell them you're a critic go to the

2630
01:43:41,109 --> 01:43:38,560
ranch

2631
01:43:43,510 --> 01:43:41,119
take pictures

2632
01:43:45,109 --> 01:43:43,520
report back to the community what your

2633
01:43:48,070 --> 01:43:45,119
experience is

2634
01:43:50,870 --> 01:43:48,080
if you see trickery and deceit and a

2635
01:43:53,189 --> 01:43:50,880
light show and magic tricks masquerading

2636
01:43:56,070 --> 01:43:53,199
as paranormal phenomenon

2637
01:43:58,149 --> 01:43:56,080
then tell the community

2638
01:44:00,790 --> 01:43:58,159
but you know i i think the better way to

2639
01:44:02,229 --> 01:44:00,800
do it is for people to be honest and

2640
01:44:04,870 --> 01:44:02,239
upfront and say

2641
01:44:07,109 --> 01:44:04,880
i don't believe you james gillian and i

2642
01:44:09,669 --> 01:44:07,119
want to come to your ranch and see these

2643
01:44:11,830 --> 01:44:09,679
things for myself and report back to the

2644
01:44:13,109 --> 01:44:11,840
community what's actually happening

2645
01:44:16,070 --> 01:44:13,119
there

2646
01:44:18,229 --> 01:44:16,080
i think like i said the poetic justice

2647
01:44:20,790 --> 01:44:18,239
that he should get

2648
01:44:23,750 --> 01:44:20,800
due to banning one cliff high should be

2649
01:44:26,470 --> 01:44:23,760
hundreds and hundreds of critics of his

2650
01:44:29,750 --> 01:44:26,480
descending on that place and proving him

2651
01:44:31,350 --> 01:44:29,760
a fraud and a con man

2652
01:44:33,189 --> 01:44:31,360
that my friends

2653
01:44:35,830 --> 01:44:33,199
would be justice

2654
01:44:38,149 --> 01:44:35,840
and just to be clear before anybody

2655
01:44:41,510 --> 01:44:38,159
starts making false accusations against

2656
01:44:45,189 --> 01:44:41,520
me that's you know in line with this guy

2657
01:44:46,629 --> 01:44:45,199
and his group of crazy woo-woo followers

2658
01:44:48,709 --> 01:44:46,639
because i'm sure that's going to happen

2659
01:44:50,870 --> 01:44:48,719
because of what i just said

2660
01:44:53,830 --> 01:44:50,880
i'm not suggesting that anyone do

2661
01:44:57,030 --> 01:44:53,840
anything illegal or even immoral or

2662
01:44:59,270 --> 01:44:57,040
unethical let me be very clear here i'm

2663
01:45:00,870 --> 01:44:59,280
just saying that

2664
01:45:02,709 --> 01:45:00,880
i don't believe if he's going to run

2665
01:45:05,590 --> 01:45:02,719
events open to the public there that he

2666
01:45:09,109 --> 01:45:05,600
has a right to ban anyone especially not

2667
01:45:11,830 --> 01:45:09,119
people that are critical of his claims

2668
01:45:14,310 --> 01:45:11,840
so i would say be upfront be honest

2669
01:45:15,910 --> 01:45:14,320
contact him say i don't believe you and

2670
01:45:18,149 --> 01:45:15,920
i'd like to attend the event you're

2671
01:45:20,870 --> 01:45:18,159
having next weekend see what he says

2672
01:45:24,390 --> 01:45:20,880
report back to me what he says

2673
01:45:25,750 --> 01:45:24,400
and here's another thing

2674
01:45:28,390 --> 01:45:25,760
if

2675
01:45:30,310 --> 01:45:28,400
you get told that you are not welcome

2676
01:45:31,910 --> 01:45:30,320
that you are banned or not allowed to

2677
01:45:34,470 --> 01:45:31,920
attend these events because you don't

2678
01:45:35,669 --> 01:45:34,480
believe in his woo-woo

2679
01:45:38,790 --> 01:45:35,679
fairy tale

2680
01:45:41,270 --> 01:45:38,800
nonsense con game like show magic tricks

2681
01:45:42,790 --> 01:45:41,280
that he's running at this ranch

2682
01:45:44,790 --> 01:45:42,800
to make a living

2683
01:45:47,750 --> 01:45:44,800
then i believe that you should call the

2684
01:45:50,790 --> 01:45:47,760
local sheriff the local county and

2685
01:45:53,270 --> 01:45:50,800
inform them that you were banned or

2686
01:45:56,390 --> 01:45:53,280
barred or not allowed to attend a public

2687
01:46:00,310 --> 01:45:56,400
event that one james gillian is having

2688
01:46:02,709 --> 01:46:00,320
on his property at that ranch

2689
01:46:04,390 --> 01:46:02,719
as for myself

2690
01:46:06,790 --> 01:46:04,400
i spent

2691
01:46:10,149 --> 01:46:06,800
an incredible amount of time today on

2692
01:46:12,629 --> 01:46:10,159
the phone with the local county with the

2693
01:46:14,470 --> 01:46:12,639
local law enforcement there

2694
01:46:16,629 --> 01:46:14,480
and

2695
01:46:18,070 --> 01:46:16,639
i gotta tell you that they were all very

2696
01:46:20,550 --> 01:46:18,080
very helpful

2697
01:46:22,790 --> 01:46:20,560
and uh really nice people i was i was

2698
01:46:24,629 --> 01:46:22,800
pleasantly surprised at how helpful and

2699
01:46:26,790 --> 01:46:24,639
willing to help me everyone that i

2700
01:46:29,990 --> 01:46:26,800
talked to today was

2701
01:46:33,030 --> 01:46:30,000
now i try to get the records from

2702
01:46:35,350 --> 01:46:33,040
mr james gillian's legal battles with

2703
01:46:37,590 --> 01:46:35,360
the county over his ranch

2704
01:46:39,189 --> 01:46:37,600
but unfortunately

2705
01:46:41,510 --> 01:46:39,199
even though these are public records

2706
01:46:42,629 --> 01:46:41,520
there's always red tape involved with

2707
01:46:43,669 --> 01:46:42,639
government

2708
01:46:46,229 --> 01:46:43,679
sources

2709
01:46:48,709 --> 01:46:46,239
so i have to fill out a bunch of public

2710
01:46:51,750 --> 01:46:48,719
records requests with each department in

2711
01:46:54,550 --> 01:46:51,760
that local county which i am doing

2712
01:46:56,790 --> 01:46:54,560
and send them off and each department

2713
01:46:58,470 --> 01:46:56,800
had that i spoke to today promised me

2714
01:47:00,070 --> 01:46:58,480
that if i just fill out these forms

2715
01:47:02,229 --> 01:47:00,080
because you know that's the red tape

2716
01:47:03,430 --> 01:47:02,239
they have to do everything in a legal

2717
01:47:05,189 --> 01:47:03,440
sense they can't just give me the

2718
01:47:06,070 --> 01:47:05,199
records i have to fill out these request

2719
01:47:08,229 --> 01:47:06,080
forms

2720
01:47:10,470 --> 01:47:08,239
if i do that they will get back to me

2721
01:47:12,550 --> 01:47:10,480
quickly with all the records that they

2722
01:47:14,229 --> 01:47:12,560
have on that

2723
01:47:16,149 --> 01:47:14,239
property

2724
01:47:17,189 --> 01:47:16,159
and i got to tell you

2725
01:47:18,950 --> 01:47:17,199
from the

2726
01:47:21,189 --> 01:47:18,960
people that i talked to today and the

2727
01:47:22,790 --> 01:47:21,199
things that i've heard

2728
01:47:26,470 --> 01:47:22,800
which i'm not going to comment on until

2729
01:47:30,229 --> 01:47:26,480
i get the actual documents and records

2730
01:47:36,870 --> 01:47:33,189
we can reveal a great deal more

2731
01:47:39,510 --> 01:47:36,880
about this so-called paranormal ranch

2732
01:47:43,270 --> 01:47:39,520
based on what i've been told by the

2733
01:47:48,790 --> 01:47:45,270
now my friends

2734
01:47:52,629 --> 01:47:50,629
you know i

2735
01:47:54,709 --> 01:47:52,639
i'm always on the fence about doing one

2736
01:47:57,910 --> 01:47:54,719
of these shows ripping apart

2737
01:47:59,750 --> 01:47:57,920
some cosmic con man

2738
01:48:01,510 --> 01:47:59,760
you know i'd really prefer to spend my

2739
01:48:04,390 --> 01:48:01,520
time talking about

2740
01:48:07,510 --> 01:48:04,400
cases that i do believe are credible and

2741
01:48:10,070 --> 01:48:07,520
mysteries that can be explored that have

2742
01:48:12,310 --> 01:48:10,080
what i always refer to as some meat on

2743
01:48:14,390 --> 01:48:12,320
the bones have some good evidence have

2744
01:48:15,990 --> 01:48:14,400
some good documentation

2745
01:48:18,390 --> 01:48:16,000
have some

2746
01:48:19,830 --> 01:48:18,400
form of evidence that you can really

2747
01:48:21,910 --> 01:48:19,840
dig into

2748
01:48:23,270 --> 01:48:21,920
i'd really prefer to spend my time doing

2749
01:48:24,390 --> 01:48:23,280
that

2750
01:48:26,470 --> 01:48:24,400
but lately

2751
01:48:30,870 --> 01:48:26,480
i've realized

2752
01:48:33,270 --> 01:48:30,880
again that somebody needs to do these

2753
01:48:35,590 --> 01:48:33,280
things somebody needs to inform the

2754
01:48:38,310 --> 01:48:35,600
community and the public

2755
01:48:40,950 --> 01:48:38,320
that people are not genuine that people

2756
01:48:43,430 --> 01:48:40,960
are making ridiculous claims that can't

2757
01:48:46,550 --> 01:48:43,440
be verified that have you know

2758
01:48:48,070 --> 01:48:46,560
very thin or no evidence whatsoever

2759
01:48:50,149 --> 01:48:48,080
and

2760
01:48:53,270 --> 01:48:50,159
i've lately been realizing what a

2761
01:48:54,790 --> 01:48:53,280
pattern these all these cosmic con men

2762
01:48:56,030 --> 01:48:54,800
have

2763
01:48:58,149 --> 01:48:56,040
they make

2764
01:49:00,310 --> 01:48:58,159
unsubstantiated claims

2765
01:49:03,750 --> 01:49:00,320
they tell great stories and then they

2766
01:49:07,910 --> 01:49:05,910
it's like they're all from the same mold

2767
01:49:10,149 --> 01:49:07,920
i don't know if they all go to the same

2768
01:49:12,390 --> 01:49:10,159
cosmic con men school

2769
01:49:14,149 --> 01:49:12,400
maybe there's a cosmic con man school i

2770
01:49:16,470 --> 01:49:14,159
don't know about and people like david

2771
01:49:19,270 --> 01:49:16,480
wilcock and corey good and this

2772
01:49:20,950 --> 01:49:19,280
james gillian and i don't know so many

2773
01:49:23,510 --> 01:49:20,960
others just go to

2774
01:49:27,669 --> 01:49:23,520
and and learn how to fleece the public

2775
01:49:30,950 --> 01:49:29,510
i don't know

2776
01:49:33,990 --> 01:49:30,960
to be truthful

2777
01:49:35,270 --> 01:49:34,000
what my place in all of this is

2778
01:49:36,470 --> 01:49:35,280
but i know

2779
01:49:39,589 --> 01:49:36,480
that

2780
01:49:42,229 --> 01:49:39,599
doing these sort of things i consider

2781
01:49:45,109 --> 01:49:42,239
to be a public service someone has to

2782
01:49:47,350 --> 01:49:45,119
let people know the real truth behind

2783
01:49:49,430 --> 01:49:47,360
these people making these fantastic

2784
01:49:51,589 --> 01:49:49,440
claims

2785
01:49:54,229 --> 01:49:51,599
and until such time

2786
01:49:57,990 --> 01:49:54,239
as it's no longer necessary for me to do

2787
01:50:01,189 --> 01:49:58,000
so i'm going to continue to do that

2788
01:50:03,990 --> 01:50:01,199
i think it's important work

2789
01:50:05,510 --> 01:50:04,000
and many of you agree with me that it is

2790
01:50:08,550 --> 01:50:05,520
and i want to thank those of you who

2791
01:50:11,430 --> 01:50:08,560
have supported me and sat through

2792
01:50:14,310 --> 01:50:11,440
listened to some of these stories of

2793
01:50:16,470 --> 01:50:14,320
these cosmic con men

2794
01:50:19,430 --> 01:50:16,480
some of you have been sending me

2795
01:50:21,109 --> 01:50:19,440
messages and emails lately encouraging

2796
01:50:24,070 --> 01:50:21,119
me to look into

2797
01:50:26,310 --> 01:50:24,080
other cosmic con men that need to be

2798
01:50:27,990 --> 01:50:26,320
exposed

2799
01:50:30,709 --> 01:50:28,000
i want to thank each and every one of

2800
01:50:33,350 --> 01:50:30,719
you who have sent me messages

2801
01:50:34,149 --> 01:50:33,360
asking me to look into various people

2802
01:50:36,550 --> 01:50:34,159
that

2803
01:50:39,189 --> 01:50:36,560
you feel need to be exposed

2804
01:50:42,229 --> 01:50:39,199
to the best of my ability i am going to

2805
01:50:45,030 --> 01:50:42,239
continue in this work

2806
01:50:47,830 --> 01:50:45,040
i want to remind you to please check out

2807
01:50:49,350 --> 01:50:47,840
and definitely do subscribe to our

2808
01:50:54,070 --> 01:50:49,360
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2809
01:51:01,189 --> 01:50:57,830
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2810
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2811
01:51:05,510 --> 01:51:03,440
can also find my youtube channel very

2812
01:51:07,270 --> 01:51:05,520
easily by just typing my name in the

2813
01:51:10,990 --> 01:51:07,280
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2814
01:51:15,430 --> 01:51:12,629
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2815
01:51:17,109 --> 01:51:15,440
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2816
01:51:19,669 --> 01:51:17,119
would subscribe if you haven't already

2817
01:51:22,950 --> 01:51:19,679
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2818
01:51:25,270 --> 01:51:22,960
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2819
01:51:28,229 --> 01:51:25,280
you can also reach us on the web and

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check out our website at the midnight

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hour dot home dot blog

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also please make sure that you search us

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out on facebook just search for the

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midnight hour show

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on facebook and like our facebook page

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also you can follow me on twitter just

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search twitter for stephen kambian you

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can send me direct messages on twitter

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or

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there

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i want to thank each and every one of

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you for joining us on tonight's journey

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please check back with us next saturday

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night at midnight right here on the

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until next time folks i'm stephen

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campion reminding you

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that questions are only offensive to

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people who have something to hide good

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[Applause]

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so

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do